Bill Simmons: it's really hard to for a single star to win 50 games on a bad team, only 2 guys can do that right now, that's Lebron and KD. Neither Westbroook nor AD could do that.
比爾 - 西蒙斯:單核帶領一支弱隊賽季取得 50 勝的難度實在太大瞭。現在的聯盟隻有兩個球員能完成:勒佈朗 - 詹姆斯和凱文 - 杜蘭特。就算威斯佈魯克和安東尼 - 戴維斯也無法做到。
He was talking about Kyrie wanting to be the man on a bad team, and how it is extremely rare for a star player to able to bring a bad team to 50 wins, he thinks of the current guys only Lebron and KD can that. Westbrook with his triple double can't get 50 wins, nor can AD while putting up monster PER and stats. is he right?
他(西蒙斯)其實是在說歐文想要去到一支弱隊,而對於明星球員來說單核帶領弱隊獲得 50 勝是多麼困難。他認為現在隻有詹姆斯和杜蘭特可以,威少就算場均三雙也無法帶隊獲得 50 勝,濃眉就算數據和 PER 值爆炸也無法做到。他說的對麼?
[ – ] [ GSW ] Kevin Durantshanetrey5 121 指標 14 小時前
I would think Kawhi or Harden could pull it off as well, but yeah it's extremely difficult to do. Those guys are probably the only ones that can.
我會覺得倫納德或哈登也可以,但會非常非常困難。這些也許是僅有的幾個能做到的人選瞭。
[ – ] [ NOP ] Jannero Pargoflaccidplatypus 93 指標 14 小時前
Maybe Harden, but I doubt if you put Kawhi on say last year's Pelicans minus AD or the Thunder minus WB that he drags either of those teams to 50 wins.
哈登也許可以吧,但我對讓倫納德帶領上賽季沒有濃眉的鵜鶘或者沒有威少的雷霆能獲得 50 勝表示懷疑。
[ – ] CelticsMJaylen 35 指標 13 小時前
The problem is the definition of 'bad team'. Pre Boogie trade that Pelicans team had so little talent i dont think any player could take them to 50 wins. Westbrook was the MVP and the thunder didnt win 50
問題在於 " 弱隊 " 的定義是什麼。在得到考辛斯之前,鵜鶘全隊的天賦太差瞭,我覺得任何人都無法單核帶領他們拿到 50 勝。威少是 MVP 雷霆也沒有獲得 50 勝。
[ – ] yeetingyute 34 指標 11 小時前
Nah. The only players that can take a shitty team to 50 wins are those that can make their teammates better, like LeBron and Harden. Kawhi doesn't have the same effect as those guys.
嗯。隻有能讓隊友變得更好的球員才能帶領一支弱旅拿到 50 勝,比如勒佈朗或哈登。倫納德相比而言無法擁有這兩位對球隊的影響力。
[ – ] Warriorsofay_othello 27 指標 12 小時前
Didn't harden do that already last year?
難道上賽季的哈登不是已經做到瞭麼?
[ – ] DaFuqd 38 指標 11 小時前
The year we finished second was a relatively bad roster. Howard missed like 50 games.
兩年前的火箭陣容相對來說真的很差,霍華德差不多缺陣瞭 50 場。
[ – ] [ MIL ] Malcolm BrogdonFKJVMMP 18 指標 11 小時前
People seem to forget that his team was actually pretty bad, they just had an above-average bench and they were built perfectly around their star.
人們好像忘記瞭那支火箭其實真的很挫,他們隻有一個平均水準以上的板凳陣容,而他們圍繞著核心球員(哈登)組建瞭一支完美的球隊。
[ – ] Rocketsfearthebeard13 10 指標 5 小時前
Our top 3 Power Forwards that year are either in China or a free agent. Dwight Howard missed half the season and wasn't super effective when he was in while he was fighting off injuries. We started a 40 year old Pablo Prigioni/Jason Terry backcourt in the WCF for Christ sake and had Joey fucking Dorsey as our main backup big...
Everyone forgets about how awful the Rockets really were on paper in 14-15. Without Harden that team wins 25 games tops, instead they make it to the WCF winning 56 games. Bill just completely overlooked this team.
火箭球迷:那年我們最好的 3 個大前鋒要麼在中國要麼就是自由球員。霍華德缺陣瞭半個賽季,在他上場的比賽中效率也不高,同時還要與傷病做鬥爭。蒼天啊,在西部決賽中我們的後場是 40 歲的老普裡吉奧尼和傑森 - 特裡,而主要的大個子替補是他麼喬伊 - 多西 ……
每個人都忘瞭在 14-15 賽季火箭的紙面陣容有多菜,沒有哈登的話,他們最多也就 25 勝,而哈登帶領球隊取得 56 勝並打入西部決賽。比爾 - 西蒙斯顯然遺漏瞭這支火箭。
[ – ] 76ersJeramiGrant 3 指標 9 小時前
Do you remember the perception of players like Gordon/Anderson before they got onto the Rockets where their play was boosted by Harden/DAntoni?
They are not good players.
你們還記得人們在戈登和安德森這樣的球員來火箭之前是怎麼看待他們的麼?在哈登和德安東尼身邊他們的表現產生瞭飛躍。本身他們並不算很好的球員。
[ – ] MavericksPilot_G3 116 指標 14 小時前
Westbrook had 47 and enes Kanter ( aka the life of the bench ) broke his hand on a chair for like 20 games lol easily could've won 50
威少帶隊獲得瞭 47 勝,而且埃內斯 - 坎特(眾所周知的板凳匪徒)還因為怒砸板凳手臂骨折缺陣瞭 20 場比賽 …… 讓我笑一會 …… 他們本可以拿到 50 勝的。
[ – ] New Orleans HornetsGood_NewsEveryone 80 指標 13 小時前
At the same time, they had a negative net rating on the year. A couple different bounces and they could have been under .500. But to be fair, WB hit a bunch of clutch shots, so that helped them overachieve.
同時,上賽季他們(雷霆)場均的凈勝分為負。他們要是上賽季稍微不走運一點,勝率就會跌倒 50% 以下。但公平的說,多次命中制勝球的威少幫助雷霆取得瞭超出預期的戰績。
[ – ] Thunderdrdownvotes12 23 指標 12 小時前
Oladipo also missed quite a few games. Our record without one of them ( they never overlapped ) was like 12-13. Without those injuries we would've easily hit 50 wins.
雷霆球迷:奧拉迪波也席瞭一些比賽。他們倆其中一人缺陣的比賽(沒有出現同時缺陣)差不多有 12-13 場。排除這些傷病因素我們可以輕松獲得 50 勝。
[ – ] [ SEA ] Kevin Durantguga31bb 361 指標 13 小時前
KD won MVP in 2014 partially because of how he carried the Thunder when Westbrook was injured. He had an insane scoring run without Westbrook playing.
杜蘭特 2014 年獲得 MVP 的部分原因就是在威少因傷缺陣時的優秀表現。在沒有威少的比賽中他上演瞭一系列不可思議的得分表演。
[ – ] [ OKC ] Russell Westbrookrickety3828 22 指標 12 小時前
Yeah, definitely carried the team but people forget Russ played a lot that season. I had to look it up, but it was 46 games and the team was 25-11 without Russ and 34-12 with Russ. 25 and 11 is still a 50 win pace but it's a pretty small sample size and that team did have Serge and Reggie ( he played pretty well that season ) .
是的,他的確扛起瞭球隊但是人們忘記瞭那個賽季威少也打瞭不少。我得查一下:威少打瞭 46 場,雷霆在沒有威少時取得 25 勝 11 負,而有威少則是 34 勝 12 負。25 勝 11 負仍然是賽季 50 勝的節奏。但是這個樣本太小瞭,而且那支球隊中還有伊巴卡和雷吉 - 傑克遜(他們在那個賽季打的相當棒)。
[ – ] NBATBDC88 16 指標 10 小時前
In the months of January and February of the '13-'14 season, when Westbrook was injured, Durant averaged 35/6.7/6.5 on 53/39/88 shooting.
Also the same time frame that Durant got his career high of 54.
在 13-14 賽季 1 月和 2 月得比賽中,在威少受傷時杜蘭特場均 35 分 6.7 板 6.5 助,投籃命中率 53%,三分命中率 39%,罰籃命中率 88%。
也是在那段時間杜蘭特砍下瞭職業生涯最高的 54 分 .
[ – ] PistonsCrispyBalooga 6 指標 14 小時前
I wanna know if Curry could lead a bad team to 50 wins.
我想知道庫裡能否帶領一支弱隊拿到 50 勝。
[ – ] WarriorssY20 11 指標 14 小時前
if they had decent shooters, maybe. If they didn't ... probably 40+ wins
如果他們有優秀的射手,也許可以;但如果沒有,大概也就 40+ 的勝場吧。
[ – ] [ MIL ] Giannis AntetokounmpoBrowngrocerybag 23 指標 13 小時前
Jesus did everyone forget how good Steph is? He can probably carry a team on his own. He is extremely unselfish and I think his style of play would make role players play above their level
天吶每個人都忘瞭庫裡有多優秀瞭麼?他可以一個人扛起一支球隊。他非常無私,而且我覺得他的打球方式可以讓角色球員們打出超出自身水準的表現。
[ – ] gotoffx 8 指標 11 小時前
People have short term memory man. Putting Durant above curry is a sin. You would've been laughed out the room if you said that in 15-16'
He's even better now
人們很健忘啊。把杜蘭特凌駕到庫裡之上是一種犯罪。如果你在 15-16 賽季這麼說的話你會被嘲諷到不能自已的。而庫裡現在甚至變得更棒瞭。
[ – ] [ MIL ] Giannis AntetokounmpoBrowngrocerybag 7 指標 13 小時前
He leads their unselfish motion offense which is so important to winning 73 games. Moreover he brought no name Davidson to the elite eight of the NCAA tournament. Yes, it's college ball but before that no one heard of that school
庫裡引領瞭球在進攻端的移動,這對於他們獲得 73 勝實在太重要瞭。再有,他曾帶領不見經傳的戴維森學院打入 NCAA 錦標賽精英八強。那是大學籃球沒錯,但是在此之前人們甚至連戴維森學院都沒聽說過。