The Clippers could have lost Blake Griffin and Chris Paul for nothing this summer. Instead, they were able to trade them for an entire team's worth of players and picks.
今年夏天，快船本可能白白送走保羅和格裡芬。然而，球隊卻通過交易用他們換來瞭成筐的球員以及選秀權。
The Blake trade seems like a big loss for the Clippers. But consider that they could have been in a much worse position right now. Blake and CP3 could have just left in free agency, leaving the Clippers with no stars ( sorry DJ ) and nothing to rebuild with.
對快船而言，格裡芬的交易貌似是賠本兒瞭。但是想想看，他們現在的情況本來有可能更糟——格裡芬和保羅或許會以自由球員的身份離開球隊，球隊一個球星都沒有（抱歉啦，小喬丹）。重建？巧婦難為無米之炊啊。
Instead, they got 2 first round draft picks, a second round draft pick, Tobias Harris, Avery Bradley, Lou Williams, Patrick Beverley, Sam Dekker, Boban Marjanovich, Montrezl Harrell, Darrun Hilliard, DeAndre Liggins, Kyle Wiltjer, and $661k in cash.
與之相反，他們得到瞭兩支首輪簽和一支次輪簽，還有托拜厄斯 - 哈裡斯、艾弗裡 - 佈拉德利、路易斯 - 威廉姆斯、帕特裡克 - 貝弗利、薩姆 - 德克爾、博班 - 馬裡亞諾維奇、蒙特雷茲 - 哈勒爾、達倫 - 希利亞德、德安德烈 - 利金斯和凱爾 - 威爾哲，以及 66 萬美元現金。
I understand that the Clippers didn't get a star back, but at least they have a foundation to rebuild from. In addition, many of these players could be traded again for draft picks, potentially giving the Clippers a stockpile of assets similar to what Boston was able to amass in recent years.
我知道，快船沒有換回來一名明星球員，但至少有重建的基礎瞭。另外，這些球員有許多可以再次用來交易換取選秀權，也許這會讓快船像近幾年廣積糧的凱爾特人一樣，囤積起成堆的優質資產。
[ – ] Clippers_ArthurDigbySellers_ 1495 指標 6 小時前
Fuck it I'll drink this kool aid
快船球迷：幹！讓我幹瞭這碗雞湯吧！
[ – ] ClippersGlobalist_Nationlist 250 指標 5 小時前
Already downed mine..
快船球迷：在下先幹為敬瞭。
[ – ] Warriors_Banned_ 90 指標 4 小時前
mine has LSD in it....thanks Klay!
勇士球迷：我這碗裡加瞭點兒能讓人 high 的 …… 謝啦！克萊！
[ – ] [ LAC ] Loy Vaughtpenpen35 6 指標 3 小時前
If we do see it this way then yeah I'm on board. Just...need to emotionally detach Blake with the Clippers and that's the hard part.
快船球迷：如果球隊真的是從這個角度考慮的話，那麼好吧，我贊成。隻是 …… 感情上講，我實在很難把格裡芬和快船分割開來啊。
[ – ] Clippersthe_HeyThere_member 435 指標 5 小時前
I know it hurts but we had Griffin A LONG time along with Paul. I think Clippers want Rookie/hopeful stars.
快船球迷：我知道這很難受，但是我船擁有格裡芬的日子真的不算短瞭！保羅也是一樣。我覺得快船想得到一些新秀或是未來之星。
[ – ] Maverickssaltywings 145 指標 4 小時前
And so the cycle continues.
天道輪回，周而復始啊。
[ – ] Clippersthe_HeyThere_member 127 指標 4 小時前
That is the way of NBA.
快船球迷：這就是 NBA 的遊戲法則啊。
[ – ] Clippersf370finance 7 指標 54 分鐘前
Sure, but I was hoping for Griffin as a Clipper lifer. We sort of missed that era of the NBA. Elton Brand could be the closest thing we have, but if you really look at it he was only with us for 7 years as well
快船球迷：是啊，不過我之前一直期待格裡芬能在快船終老。我們球隊錯過瞭 NBA 那個 " 一個人一座城 " 的時代。老船長埃爾頓 - 佈蘭德估計是最接近我船功勛的那個瞭，可你仔細算算的話他在快船打瞭也就不過 7 年。
[ – ] Maverickssaltywings 49 指標 4 小時前
You guys are in a better spot than teams like the Wizards, Grizzlies, Hornets though because of the cap flexibility now with the picks. I wouldn't want my team tied to mediocrity for multiple years with a core that isn't working.
獨行俠球迷：不過你們快船的處境要比像奇才，灰熊，黃蜂這些球隊的要好呀，現在你們的薪金空間更靈活，手裡還有些選秀權。我可不想我的主隊核心陣容打不出效果，球隊庸庸碌碌好幾年。
[ – ] LakersPM_YOUR_LONZO_BALLS 76 指標 4 小時前
I'm confused why you're lumping the Wizards, who have Beal, Wall, and Porter locked into long-term deals, with the Grizzlies and Hornets. If the Wiz didn't have fucking Mahimi on the books they could sign another stud and be legit contenders.
我不明白你為什麼會把奇才跟灰熊還有黃蜂放在一起，比爾、沃爾還有波特都跟奇才簽瞭長約。要不是有個他娘的馬辛米（合同那麼大），他們還能再簽下一名悍將成為總冠軍的競爭者。
[ – ] Maverickssaltywings 20 指標 4 小時前
Teams that have to keep their core and can't do much because they paid out a max to 3 players pretty much.
獨行俠球迷：我這麼說是因為，這些球隊都還得保留他們現有的核心成員，因為他們各自給瞭 3 名球員頂薪，占據瞭球隊大量薪金空間，所以沒法做出什麼大動作瞭。
[ – ] WizardsPKP_OH_130 23 指標 2 小時前
Our owner aspires to be the 2000s hawks.
Endless second round playoff exits is a feature not a bug
奇才球迷：唉，老板是想讓球隊成為零幾年的老鷹啊。
年年二輪遊，還以此為榮，不求改進。
[ – ] [ SAS ] Tim Duncanrattatatouille 158 指標 6 小時前
Jerry West, franchise fixer
傑裡 - 韋斯特，老中醫，專治球隊各種便秘。
[ – ] Clippersiceinabucket 1267 指標 6 小時前
In the logo we trust
快船球迷：Logo 男是我們的信仰！
[ – ] [ MIA ] Dion WaitersTito_Our_Saviour 541 指標 6 小時前 *
Hey man this is a super ballsy move that not many GMs would touch with a 20 foot pole. I think it's necessary , Jerry is the right guy for this job.
老哥，這是次非常有膽量的操作，可沒有多少球隊經理會這麼玩火啊。我認為這麼做很有必要，韋斯特是負責你們重建工作的不二人選。
[ – ] Lakersositola 346 指標 5 小時前
Jerry has literally nothing to prove at this point, he's cashing blank checks
湖人球迷：都 2018 年瞭，傑裡 - 韋斯特真的不需要再證明什麼瞭。空手套白狼，祖傳秘方瞭。
[ – ] [ LAL ] Brandon IngramManDown227 179 指標 5 小時前
He's got those Danny Ainge powers where even if he makes a seemingly questionable move, everything just falls into place for it to work perfectly
湖人球迷：他有那種和丹尼 - 安吉一樣的本領，即使做瞭一筆似乎不太靠譜的操作，可一切還是會有條不紊地，按照他的計劃完美發展。
[ – ] ThunderTheBigBomma 277 指標 4 小時前
Jerry West was the king of this shit long before Ainge
在這方面，安吉得管韋斯特叫祖師爺。
[ – ] NetsLiaM_CS 160 指標 4 小時前
For real, that man basically built the Showtime and Shaq/Kobe lakers then went on to have a huge hand in building the warriors
說真的，是老爺子一手締造瞭 Showtime 時代與 OK 組合兩代湖人，然後又在勇士的重建過程中提供瞭巨大幫助。
[ – ] zombiemind8 91 指標 3 小時前
He also made Memphis relevant after being so bad they had to relocate.
灰熊當初爛的不得不遷移主場，之後也是韋斯特讓灰熊有瞭存在感。
[ – ] [ OKC ] Steven Adamslegendariusss 104 指標 5 小時前
Those first round picks are gonna turn into another curry and klay and the second rounder is gonna be the next dray. I can feel it in my balls
雷霆球迷：那些首輪和次輪簽中就藏著下一個庫裡、克萊和追夢呢，我以卵起誓。
[ – ] [ GSW ] Klay Thompsonnotabear629 111 指標 5 小時前
He's gonna trade all the assets for Kyle Singler, everyone will laugh, and then Kyle Singler is gonna average 42-0-42-0-42 on 69-69-69 shooting.
I can feel it in my balls.
勇士球迷：老爺子會用所有籌碼交易來凱爾 - 辛格勒，人人都會嘲笑這筆操作，然後金色轟炸機會以 69%+69%+69% 的命中率場均狂砍 42+0+42+0+42 的數據。
我襠真能感覺到。
[ – ] dropdatdurkadurk 118 指標 5 小時前
The overlooked part of all this: being able to resign Blake without giving him an NTC
Because I guarantee that was a key variable in negotiations. And it would have changed everything
That's really the savvy part of LACs summer last year
Also watch for in upcoming Summer's for the NTC to be a major sticking point in contract negotiations precisely because of this. No player wants to have happen what just happened to Griffin
有一點被大傢忽略瞭：續約格裡芬時快船沒有給他交易否決權。
這就是快船跟其他隊談判中的關鍵變量因素，要是給瞭交易否決權，那一切的一切都會發生改變。
這招真是快船去年夏天一筆精明的操作。
還有，等著瞧吧，因為這件事，接下來的休賽期裡，交易否決權會成為合同談判中的主要討論點的。沒有球員想步格裡芬的後塵。
[ – ] ThunderRedactedrevisionist 54 指標 5 小時前
Yeah I mean, imagine telling the GM you're basically ok with being a middling playoff team as long as you play in LA and they ship you to a middling playoff team in the East ( aka a worse team ) AND you now play in Detroit. I'd be pretty pissed off I think.
嗯，我明白你的意思，球員告訴經理，" 嗯，隻要我能在洛杉磯打球，哪怕球隊是季後賽中遊水準也沒問題 "，結果球隊把你送到瞭東部的中遊球隊（還是支更差一點的球隊），還有，你現在，在底特律打球瞭，是底特律。我覺得要是擱我身上我會爆炸的。
[ – ] Bullsmigcal 132 指標 5 小時前
Jerry West on a mission to fix all 30 franchises
傑裡 - 韋斯特在打副本任務，要把聯盟裡每支球隊都調理個遍。
[ – ] RocketsIndySkylander 54 指標 4 小時前
The parity we need. Everyone at Warriors level.
這不就是我們需要的平等互惠麼，來吧，讓每支球隊都達到勇士的級別，共同富裕吧。
[ – ] [ NYK ] Frank Ntilikinaaoifhasoifha 41 指標 4 小時前
Despite how it seems at times, guys like West and Ainge ( and Buford, Morey, Hinkie, etc. ) aren't mystic geniuses. Yes, they are incredible at evaluating talent and fit but what makes them unique is their ability to make very quick assessments of talent, and then be patient or ruthless as the situation dictates without bowing to the pressures of the fanbase ( of course, this requires ownership support ) .
不管怎麼說，像韋斯特和安吉（還有佈福德、莫雷還有辛基等）這樣的人並不算是什麼神秘的天才。是，他們的眼光很不可思議，但是，他們之所以與眾不同，是因為，他們能快速評估球員的天賦，然後耐心、不帶感情色彩的面對局勢，不屈服於主隊球迷群體的壓力（當然，這需要球隊老板的支持）。
Ainge and West have whiffed a ton over the years, but when they did they were smart enough to bail quickly instead of overcommitting and made enough value plays that over time, they accrued assets. Not many people are so quick to admit their mistakes or so willing to make the hard choices ( and again, this requires ownership support- just ask Sam Hinkie ) .
安吉和韋斯特這些年來也不是沒有錯的時候，他們錯的時候可不少。但是在努力打瞭水漂後，他們絕不犯糊塗，絕不會死犟、在一棵樹上吊死，而是機智地幫助球隊迅速地脫離錯誤局勢，一點一點地做出充足、有價值的操作，積累起優質資產。沒有多少人能很快地承認自己的錯誤，或者願意做出艱難的選擇（再說一遍，這需要球隊老板的支持——不然請看隔壁費城薩姆 - 辛基的下場）。
[ – ] Raptorssteezstylo 15 指標 2 小時前
I remember back before the KG trade, when the Celtics were hording assets that kinda just looked like a bunch of middling role players at the time, before tanking for Oden/KD and ending up with the 5th pick in a 2 man draft.
No one was calling Ainge a genius back then, and irrc his name came up in the "worst gm" conversations.
Then he turned a bunch of those middling assets into KG, Ray Allen and Rondo and the rest is history. Over a decade later he's a genius while the "genius" gm's of the early 2000's like SSOL Bryan Colangelo and Joe Dumars are now laughingstocks
我記得在 2007 年加內特的交易之前，那時凱爾特人手中攥著一大把也就是中等水準的角色球員吧，然後為瞭奧登和杜蘭特擺爛，那屆選秀中是奧登和杜蘭特的二人轉，而凱爾特人隻抽到瞭 5 號簽。
那時還沒人稱安吉是個天才，我記得他的名字還出現在 " 最差經理 " 的討論中呢。
然後呢，他把那些球員換成瞭加內特，雷 - 阿倫還有隆多，剩下的故事大傢都知道瞭。十年後，他成瞭人們口中的天才，而那些 21 世紀初的 " 天才 " 經理們，像是推行跑轟的佈萊恩 - 克朗吉洛，還有喬 - 杜馬斯，如今成瞭人們的笑柄。
A lot of gm's at a pro level can catch lightning in a bottle and keep it going for a few years. What makes guys like West and Ainge et al impressive is that they can do it repeatedly in different ways without relying on formula, because they take advantage of the opportunities that make themselves available, instead of trying to reproduce past glories.
West probably wouldn't be as celebrated if after the lakers, he started throwing picks and players trying to find a volume scorer/7 ft big man combo to build around
很多專業級別的經理，三年不開張，開張吃三年。韋斯特和安吉這類大神的神奇之處在於，他們能不墨守成規，用不同方法不斷創造奇跡。這是因為他們能抓住每個浮現出水面的機會，而不是試圖重現過去的輝煌，用前朝的劍斬今朝的官。
如果當初韋斯特從湖人功成身退後不思進取，沿用以前的思路，選擇通過大量的選秀權和球員做籌碼來套七尺大個或者靠量（而不是效率）吃飯的得分手，那韋斯特也不會是今天人人稱贊的傳奇經理瞭。
[ – ] ClippersSlyHoooper 632 指標 6 小時前
I went from using cp3, JJ Reddick, Jamal Crawford and Blake Griffin in 2k to Lou will, Austin Rivers, Montrez Harrell and Sam Dekker smh
快船球迷：唉，我從操縱保羅、雷迪克、克勞福德和格裡芬打 2K，淪落到瞭用路威、小裡弗斯、哈雷爾和德克爾，額滴神啊。
[ – ] LakersBluntMFer 200 指標 5 小時前
Ha try the Lakers with Nash, Howard, and the Goat to this current roster lol
湖人球迷：哈哈，試試看從 2012-13 賽季的湖人 F4 玩到現在這波球員的感覺吧。
[ – ] WizardsMrBigtime_97 117 指標 5 小時前
At least Zo, Kuzma, and Ingram are fun to play with. And Clarkson is fun to iso with. Also you can kill people with the Ingram-Lopez Pick and Fade.
起碼鮑爾，庫茲馬和英格拉姆還有些玩兒頭啊。用克拉克森單打挺有意思的。你還能用英格拉姆和洛佩茲的掩護戰術摩擦對手。
[ – ] Celticsball4real 109 指標 5 小時前 *
CP3 deal was the best of a bad situation. Moving Blake will sting, but it was bold and proactive. DJ and Sweet Lou will bring in even more. Clips will be through phase 1 of their rebuild in under a year with positive assets across the board instead of dragging out the inevitable. Still have an interesting team too. Nothing but props.
保羅的那筆交易算是不幸中的萬幸瞭。交易走格裡芬會有陣痛，但是這一招大膽主動。小喬丹和路威還會進一步卷入交易之中。快船會在不到 1 年內完成重建的第 1 步，換回各個方面的有利資產，而不是坐以待斃。他們還會是支有趣的隊伍的。不得不服啊。
[ – ] Buckstheconfuserx2 284 指標 6 小時前
The reverse nets
雄鹿球迷：籃網，你看看人傢。
[ – ] SuspensionPension 444 指標 6 小時前
Your franchise legit traded for Jason fucking Kidd
老哥，自己的屎都沒擦幹凈呢就別說別人腚臟瞭，你鹿當初可是把傑森 - 基德換來瞭！
[ – ] Buckstheconfuserx2 108 指標 5 小時前
Who?
雄鹿球迷：裝作沒聽到。
[ – ] [ MIL ] Malcolm BrogdonBart_Dart 56 指標 5 小時前
FLAIR UP, SON... unless your team is well run
雄鹿球迷：上面挑釁的那個，敢不敢把你主隊報出來（要是戰績不錯那就免瞭）……
[ – ] [ LAL ] Kobe BryantNY-Kobe-6God 81 指標 5 小時前
It bothers me that those guys are being helped by OUR JERRY!
湖人球迷：我很不爽啊！是韋斯特在幫他們啊！我湖的韋斯特啊！
[ – ] Kings BandwagonE_EqualsDankCSquared 68 指標 5 小時前
Lakers fault for not offering him smthin
湖人沒向他拋出橄欖枝就是個錯誤。
[ – ] Lakerswhiskeynrye 13 指標 4 小時前
He didn't want something, he wanted to run the show which was impossible after Jeanie hired Magic and Pelinka.
湖人球迷：錢不是他想要的，他想要統領全局，而珍妮 - 巴斯聘用瞭魔術師和佩林卡，所以就不可能瞭。
[ – ] Lakersmonkeyman80 29 指標 4 小時前
he felt he had trained kupchak to be a worthy successor and didn't want to screw him by staying around and people will consistently defer to him/want his opinions.
plus jerry got way to stressed out when he's responsible for wins/losses. he'd pace the hallways unable to watch. for someone in his 60's/70's that's not something you want to do daily.
湖人球迷：韋斯特覺得他已經把庫普切克培養成瞭一位成功的經理瞭，不想呆在他身邊束縛他，因為隻要韋斯特還在，大傢就會一直順著他的意思，向他尋求意見。
此外，球隊勝負系於身上，韋斯特的壓力很大，他會走廊裡來回踱步，不敢看比賽。如果你都 6、70 歲瞭，你才不想每天這麼度過呢。
