三方僵持,安東尼交易停滯,若想打破僵局,隻能一方做出重大犧牲
[ Begley ] This idea that Carmelo Anthony is holding the Knicks 'hostage' is absurd. He's using the no-trade clause that the Knicks gave him in 2014. ( twitter.com )
卡梅羅 - 安東尼 " 劫持瞭 " 尼克斯的這個想法太荒謬瞭,他隻不過是在利用 2014 年尼克斯賦予他的交易否決權而已。
[ – ] KnicksDak1dd 251 指標 16 小時前
That should be common sense.
這應該是個常識瞭吧。
[ – ] Knicksjzdabest1 1768 指標 16 小時前
The truth is Melo wants to leave and knicks don't need to trade him, Knicks want good assets but Melo doesn't need to go anywhere he doesn't want to. It's a stand-still that's negative for both sides.
事實是,甜瓜想離開紐約,而尼克斯並不需要非交易他不可,尼克斯想得到些優質的資產,但是甜瓜根本用不著去他不想去的球隊。現在的僵持局面對雙方而言都是不利的。
[ – ] [ TOR ] Amir JohnsonIanicRR 964 指標 16 小時前
They need a lock-in at the rec center to solve their problems.
得把他們鎖在娛樂中心裡來解決他們之間的問題。
[ – ] [ HOU ] Nene HilarioThatbrasiliankid 79 指標 16 小時前
Yeah but it's much worse for the knicks, at the end of the day Melo still gets his hefty check
沒錯,但是現在的局面對尼克斯來說更糟糕一些,反正到頭來,安東尼也還是會得到他的巨額支票的。
[ – ] Stark52 25 指標 14 小時前 *
That's fine, I Rather have & pay Melo for a year than anyone available in free agency right now
這沒啥大不瞭的,我寧願付安東尼薪水讓他留隊一年,也不願意簽下現在仍處在自由球員市場上的任何一人。
[ – ] [ HOU ] Nene HilarioThatbrasiliankid 29 指標 14 小時前
I get that but you could at the very least get a first rounder and someone else out of it. Next year he just opts out and yall are irrelevant for another year
火箭球迷:我懂的,但現在把安東尼交易走,你最起碼能得到一個首輪簽和其他的球員。要是明年他選擇跳出合同,你們便又會再爛一個賽季瞭。
[ – ] Heatzveroshka 29 指標 14 小時前
I think if someone was offering a first rounder and a decent player Knicks would have already taken the offer. The problem is right now their best offer from a team Melo wants to go to sounds like Anderson and maybe some conditional picks. So the Knicks actually would have to take back some negative value and only walk away with perhaps some middling value out of the picks.
我覺得如果有哪隻球隊願意給尼克斯一個首輪簽以及一名不錯的球員的話,他們可能已經接受這份報價瞭。而問題是,現在尼克斯從甜瓜想去的球隊中收到的最好報價,聽起來好像是安德森,外加一些有條件的選秀權。因此實際上,尼克斯不得不換回一些價值為負的資產,並且隻能順便得到一些可能價值一般的選秀權。
[ – ] bababooey1028 155 指標 15 小時前
No, the real truth is no one wants to give up first rounders for an aging ballhog who hasn't won anything at the pro-level. Despite what this sub thinks, Melo's stock isn't that high in the NBA. If the Knicks could get a couple of first rounders for him he would be gone over the weekend.
不不不,實際情況是沒有球隊願意為一個年齡漸長、非常粘球,在職業水平的賽場上也沒贏得過什麼榮譽的人付出首輪簽。不管這個回復裡的人怎麼想,但甜瓜在 NBA 的價值已經沒有那麼高瞭。如果尼克斯能夠用他換到幾個首輪簽的話,可能這周末他就被交易走瞭。
[ – ] 76ersbengm225 89 指標 15 小時前
Then the Knicks need to adjust their asking price if they want to move on. To reiterate: they gave him the no-trade clause, and they are the ones who are now struggling to trade him. Yes, it seems like Melo would prefer to leave too, and a deal would be in his best interests as well, but the reason it's a problem is one entirely of the Knicks' front office's doing.
那麼如果尼克斯想要繼續交易的話,他們就需要調整一下自己的要價瞭。再次重申一遍:尼克斯賦予瞭安東尼否決交易的權利,而如今在交易甜瓜的過程中陷入掙紮的也是他們。沒錯,看起來甜瓜也更傾向於離開紐約,而達成的交易也會符合他的最大利益。但讓這次交易變得困難棘手的原因,則全都源自於尼克斯管理層的操作。
[ – ] Knicksjohnhenryirons 121 指標 15 小時前
The Knicks asking price is no shitty contracts. We don't want 3 years of Ryan Anderson or Meyers Leonard. If the Rockets want him that badly, they can up their offer. He's under contract with us so we don't have to trade him for peanuts. I've seen people saying Melo is a salary dump and that we need to add a 1st rounder to get rid of him. that's hilarious.
尼克斯球迷:我們的要價可不是垃圾合同。我們不想要還有三年合同在身的萊恩 - 安德森或者是邁耶斯 - 倫納德。如果火箭真的那麼渴望得到甜瓜,他們可以提高他們的報價啊。安東尼和我們還有合同在身,所以我們不需要用西瓜換芝麻。我見過有人說,安東尼的合同是個薪資毒瘤,我們需要倒貼一個首輪簽才能交易掉他,真的因吹斯汀。
[ – ] donotbelieveit 64 指標 16 小時前
Carmelo's son plays for the New York Gauchos. One of the best AAU programs on the country for his age. The Houston Blue Chips is another top 5 in the country program. I know he is very close to his son and goes to as many of his games as he can. I wonder if his choice of city's to go to depend s on whether or not they have a quality AAU program for his son.
安東尼的兒子在紐約高喬人隊打球,這是在他的年齡段國內最好的 AAU 球隊之一。而休斯頓藍籌股隊也是另一隻在全國范圍內排名前五的球隊。我知道安東尼和他兒子的關系非常好,還會盡可能多的去看他兒子的比賽。我想知道當他選擇去哪座城市效力時,是否會取決於有沒有一支還不錯的 AAU 球隊來讓他兒子得到鍛煉。
[ – ] O_R 28 指標 14 小時前
does the quality of the AAU program really matter that much for Melo's kid. You don't think 'Cuse or somewhere would just hand him a scholarship by nature of being an Anthony, should he be anywhere near talented enough to reach the next level?
一支不錯的 AAU 球隊對甜瓜的兒子來說真的有那麼重要嗎?你不覺得僅僅因為他是安東尼的兒子,雪城大學或者是其他別的學校就會給他一份獎學金嗎,而且他也應該差不多有足夠的天賦來更上一層樓。
【註】雪城大學是安東尼的母校,安東尼在校期間曾帶領該校獲得學校歷史上的第一個 NCAA 冠軍。
[ – ] CelticsPlernatious 78 指標 14 小時前
it's about playing other similarly skilled kids so that he can get better
這是為瞭讓他和其他水平相近的孩子一起打球,這樣他就能變得更好。
[ – ] Knicksfeelingnodefeat 63 指標 15 小時前
Nobody thinks the Carmelo is holding the Knicks hostage. Nobody thinks the Knicks are holding him hostage either.
Truth is, Carmelo has finally decided he wants to leave, and has destinations in mind ( Houston & Cleveland ) . The Knicks have decided that they're OK with trading him, and have shopped him to both teams. They've also decided that the return for Carmelo is not worth trading him right now. So if the Rockets & Cavs don't increase their offers, Carmelo won't be going to Houston or Cleveland. Other teams can put forth better offers, but Carmelo doesn't want to waive his no-trade clause for these teams. As is his right.
Something has got to give though. There are only three scenarios, and I'm eager to see what ends up happening.
Rockets or Cavs up their offer, and the Knicks accept it
Carmelo waives his no-trade to a different team who has a better offer tabled
Carmelo returns to the Knicks next year
沒人會覺得安東尼挾持瞭尼克斯,同樣也沒人會覺得是尼克斯挾持瞭安東尼。
事實是,安東尼終於下定決心打算離開紐約,並且心裡已經有瞭自己的目的地(火箭 & 騎士)。尼克斯也覺得可以交易安東尼,並且向這兩支球隊兜售過他。同時他們也認為,交易走安東尼所獲得的回報,並不值得現在就交易走他。因此如果火箭和騎士不提高他們的報價,安東尼就不會去火箭或者騎士。其他球隊能夠給出更好的報價,但安東尼並不想為這些球隊放棄他的交易否決權,這是他的權利。
所以有一方必須做出一些讓步,也隻有三種可能的情況,而且我已經等不及看看事情最終會如何發展瞭:
一,火箭或騎士給出更高的報價,然後尼克斯接受瞭報價;
二,安東尼為一支拿出瞭更好籌碼的別的球隊,放棄瞭他的交易否決權;
三,安東尼留守尼克斯。