巔峰魔獸聯盟前三,他能進名人堂?

07-19

Dwight Howard in his prime was something else. Here are his highlights vs OKC back in 2008 - 30pts/19rbs/10blks ( youtu.be )

巔峰的德懷特 - 霍華德簡直另外一個水平的存在,下面是他 2008 年對陣雷霆時的高光集錦—— 30 分 /19 籃板 /10 蓋帽。

霍華德面對雷霆砍下 30 分 19 籃板 10 蓋帽的三雙:http://weibo.com/tv/v/FcVpzlqUV?fid=1034:9eb2b3726316acddf063c84b9c709f52

[ – ] Raptorsjjkiller26 363 指標 19 小時前

triple double no assists

不需要助攻的三雙。

[ – ] RaptorsVinceJumpmanCarter [ S ] 115 指標 19 小時前

He didn't take it easy on rookie Westbrook, that's for sure. Dwight had three blocks on him.

霍華德真的沒有對還是新秀的威少手下留情啊,這是肯定的。單單威少他就冒瞭三個。

[ – ] Wizards Bandwagonlivefreeordont 262 指標 19 小時前

https://youtube.com/watch?v=p5P0OWcJNog

40 points to knock out Bron in 2009. Untoppable in the post

霍華德 09 年季後賽對陣勒佈朗,砍下 40 分:http://weibo.com/tv/v/FcRhuz9z2?fid=1034:a23e3a683f8ebf7aa6b30d887e7e6693

上面是 2009 年霍華德季後賽對陣勒佈朗的騎士砍下 40 分時的集錦,在低位簡直不可阻擋。

[ – ] Spurs Bandwagonlucao_psellus 20 指標 18 小時前

Hack-a-Dwight went really badly this game.

那場比賽裡," 砍霍 " 戰術真的被用爛瞭,比賽變得很難堪。

[ – ] Knicks BandwagonISHLDPROBABLYBWRKING 111 指標 18 小時前

He really was, if you didn't have a Dwight stopper it was over. Bynum, Perkins someone to stand and try to limit Dwight, was a Necessity

霍華德真的就有這麼厲害,當時如果你的隊裡沒有一個 " 霍華德阻止者 ",比賽就已經結束瞭。擁有像拜納姆,帕金斯這樣的大傢夥鎮守內線,努力去限制霍華德是非常必要的。

[ – ] [ LAL ] Kobe Bryantmollypoppinz 51 指標 15 小時前

Gasol guarded him a majority of the time.

湖人球迷:但是總決賽裡大多數時間都是加索爾在防守他(霍華德)。

[ – ] Bokuto-san 30 指標 13 小時前

Yes, Pau shut him down in the Finals. Just with IQ.

是的,加索爾在總決賽裡限制住瞭他,憑借的僅僅隻是智商。

[ – ] [ DET ] Chauncey Billupsharbaughkhakis2017 297 指標 19 小時前

Yea Dwight in his prime was a top 3 player in the NBA

是的,巔峰的霍華德是聯盟前三的球員。

[ – ] [ CHA ] Corey MaggetteBizGilwalker 134 指標 19 小時前

I was not a fan of his but he deserved that 2011 MVP

我並不是他的球迷,但是霍華德值得上 2011 年的 MVP。

[ – ] RaptorsMetaFlight 39 指標 17 小時前

Back when contenders didn't need to have at least 3 all stars.

在當時,你還不需要至少擁有 3 個全明星才能成為爭冠球隊。

[ – ] Magic_unemployed 165 指標 15 小時前

We had three all stars that year...

魔術球迷:那一年我們確實有三個全明星 …

[ – ] Lakerspupunoob 7 指標 12 小時前

Tbf, usually when people say that, they mean perennial all stars who are household names. But that Magic team was something else.

說實話,當人們通常說 " 至少 3 個全明星時 ",他們是指全明星中的常客,那種傢喻戶曉的籃球運動員。但是當時那支魔術則完全是另外一種情形。

[ – ] Warriorschaoism 24 指標 14 小時前

Jameer was something else that season

But what really stood out to me was hedo

那個賽季尼爾森打出另外一個水平的表現。

但是對我來說,真正在球隊中表現亮眼的應該是希度 - 特克格魯。

[ – ] gigglios 13 指標 13 小時前 *

Watching jameer get playtime over rafer alston in the playoffs was terrible. Nelson came back from injury while Alston was clearly their second best player after Dwight, but they gave Nelson too much pt in the finals.

在季後賽中看到尼爾森優於阿爾斯通得到更多的上場時間是件非常糟糕的事情,當時尼爾森剛剛傷愈復出,而顯然當時阿爾斯通是球隊裡除瞭霍華德外第二好的球員,但是魔術在總決賽中則給瞭尼爾森太多的上場時間。

[ – ] Lakersbrandoi 622 指標 19 小時前 *

And then we get people asking if he's a HOF lock or an all time great.......

Edit: Love that the people saying he's not a lock don't even bring up his defense

然而現在卻有人在問,霍華德是否鎖定瞭進入名人堂,或者在歷史上究竟是不是一位偉大的球員 …

註:我喜歡看到那些說霍華德沒有鎖定進入名人堂,卻提都不提他的防守的人們。

[ – ] [ POR ] C.J. McCollumCornrow_Kenny 172 指標 19 小時前

This game was 9 years ago fam. Lotta people here weren't watching hoops then.

樓主說的那場比賽離現在已經過去 9 年瞭,現在論壇裡的很多人當時都還不看 NBA 呢。

[ – ] [ deleted ] 129 指標 19 小時前

All it takes is a glance at his career stats and accolades to know that he's a guaranteed lock

你全部需要的隻是瞟一眼霍華德的職業生涯數據,以及獲得的各種榮譽,然後就能發現他絕對是鎖定名人堂瞭。

[ – ] iainturfather 490 指標 19 小時前

Man I just saw some guy arguing that if Dwight makes the HOF then we have to put in guys like Gortat and Nene...

老哥們,我剛剛還看見某些人在爭論說,如果霍華德進入瞭名人堂,那麼我們就得把像戈塔特和內內這樣的球員也送進去瞭 …

[ – ] [ CHI ] Toni KukocDavin998 386 指標 18 小時前

That makes me want to throw up.

看到這些評論真的使我惡心。

[ – ] iainturfather 100 指標 18 小時前

Yeah, dead serious too. Apparently unless you win a ring you are trash. Just funny

是的,而且那些詆毀霍華德的人看起來還非常的認真。顯然除非你拿到瞭總冠軍,否則你就是垃圾,真是太可笑瞭。

[ – ] NBAfastlikeanascar 57 指標 16 小時前

And this bullshit logic is why players feel they need a ring. To validate their careers.

Just an example, David West was a very good player in his prime. I wouldn't call him a HOF, and I doubt his ring with the 2017 Warriors will factor in to his HOF candidacy. I'm sure that the HOF wasn't the only reason he chose to ring chase, but I can't help but think some of these former stars feel the ring validates their careers.

這些狗屁評論就是現在的球員們感覺到他們一定需要拿到總冠軍的原因——去為自己的職業生涯正名。

僅僅舉個例子,巔峰的大衛 - 韋斯特是個非常出色的球員。我不會稱他為一位名人堂成員,而且我懷疑他在 2017 年跟隨勇士拿到的冠軍是否有助於他進入名人堂的候選名單。我很確信名人堂這個事情並不是他追逐總冠軍的唯一目的,但是我忍不住會去想,這些巔峰已過球星中的其中一部分會覺得總冠軍戒指能夠為他們的職業生涯正名的。

[ – ] [ OKC ] Semaj ChristonUncontestedWestbrook 93 指標 15 小時前

David West is not a HoFer, even with 2 rings.

大衛 - 韋斯特可不是名人堂成員,就算拿瞭 2 枚總冠軍戒指,他也不是。

[ – ] tkf99 4 指標 17 小時前

Chris Webber was a much better player and he missed induction. No guarantees.

克裡斯 - 韋伯是個比霍華德出色得多的球員,然而他一次又一次的錯過名人堂備選名單。有些事真的沒法保證。

[ – ] WarriorsYamulo 15 指標 14 小時前

Much better, in which way? Dwight made 5 first teams and won DPOY 3 times. With 4 first team all defense.

請問在哪方面韋伯要出色得多?霍華德進過 5 次一陣,拿過 3 個 DPOY,同時入選過 4 次聯盟最佳防守陣容。

[ – ] [ CLE ] LeBron Jamesoedipusrex0 33 指標 17 小時前

Ehh I'll take prime Dwight over C-Webb, granted I'm basing that off C-Webb accolades/stats/highlights rather than truly seeing him play.

額,我會把巔峰霍華德放到韋伯前面,但是我是依據韋伯整個生涯的榮譽 / 數據 / 集錦來做出判斷的,並沒有真正的在現場看過他打球。

[ – ] HawksWhosYourPapa 115 指標 18 小時前

The dude single-handedly brought the Magic to the Finals in '09. One of the greatest years by a Center ever. I think too many people get caught up in all the off the court shit and forget how dominant he was. He also has managed to stay productive for a very long time in the league. I agree with you that he has a strong case for the HOF

霍華德這傢夥在 09 年單核帶領魔術殺進瞭總決賽,這是由單賽季裡中鋒最偉大的表現之一。我覺得有太多的人被霍華德場外的那些麻煩所誤導瞭,並且忘記瞭他曾經多麼有統治力。同時霍華德也成功的在很長一段時間裡都能夠保持高效的產出。我同意你們的說法,他有非常強有力的依據去進入名人堂。

[ – ] MagicGuCruise 63 指標 16 小時前 *

Single handedly? Nah, man, that was a great team, but I will admit he was the most important player. People overlook how good Hedo was creating matchup nightmares as a point forward. And without all the 3 point shooting surrounding Howard they wouldn't have made it to the finals.

單核?額,老哥,那可是一支非常出色的魔術隊,但我承認霍華德是其中最重要的球員。可人們忽視瞭在擔任控鋒時,希度 - 特克格魯是如何在對位上給對手造成噩夢的。而且如果沒瞭圍繞在霍華德身邊的那一群射手,他們是不可能打進總決賽的。

[ – ] BucksMarty_ShortForMartin 14 指標 15 小時前

He's the reason they were open for three's. I loved Orlando Dwight, but I'm biased being a fan of old school inside out basketball. If Dwight's not on that team they are lucky to not be in last place. He definitely had that team on his back and carried them all the way up that hill.

霍華德是那些三分射手們能夠得到空位的原因。我喜歡魔術時期的霍華德,但是我也帶有一些偏見,因為我是傳統內外結合籃球打法的粉絲。如果霍華德不在那支魔術,他們不墊底就已經很幸運瞭。他絕對是把整支球隊抗在瞭自己的肩上,並一路帶領他們打進總決賽的。

[ – ] Grizzliesfennourtine 3 指標 8 小時前

Courtney Lee, Rafer Alston, and Marcin Gortat off the bench too. That team is my favorite non-grizzly team ever. Outrageously fun.

灰熊球迷:當年魔術板凳席上坐著康特尼 - 李,阿爾斯通,還有戈塔特。除瞭灰熊外,那支魔術是我最喜歡的球隊。看他們打球極其有趣。

[ – ] MagicGuCruise 2 指標 7 小時前

And a young JJ Redick too, was a very fun team to watch. I remember watching the game against the kings where they broke the record for 3 pointers in a game.

再加上一個年輕的雷迪克,整支球隊的觀賞性非常高。我記得當時看他們對陣國王的一場比賽,那場比賽中他們打破瞭單場 3 分球命中數的記錄。

[ – ] Kingsjdub3381 68 指標 19 小時前

Man if you told me in 2009 that Dwight and DRose would end up being marginal role players in 2017, I'd say you were crazy

老哥,如果你在 2009 年的時候告訴我,霍華德和羅斯在 2017 年會幾乎成為角色球員的話,我會說你瘋瞭的。

[ – ] Stanley_the_Manley 2 指標 12 小時前

Too bad he never worked on his game or improved at all. Being a freak athlete will only take you so far. Should have learned from LeBron.

霍華德從來沒有在他的比賽上下功夫,根本就沒有一點進步,這點太糟糕瞭。作為一個怪物運動員也隻能夠讓你走到這麼遠瞭,當時他真的應該向勒佈朗多學學的。

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