Seems to have gone unnoticed, but Harden and Paul combined for 22 assists on just 2 turnovers last night.
看似人們都低估瞭一個事實，但是燈泡組合上場比賽一共送出瞭 22 次助攻，且僅有 2 次失誤。
Paul had 13/1.
Harden had 9/1.
That is absolutely terrifying and we should all lock our doors tonight just in case.
Edit: thread box score was wrong. Harden was 10/1 so make that 23.
保羅的助攻失誤比是 13:1。
哈登的助攻失誤比是 9:1。
這肯定嚇死人瞭，以防萬一，我們今晚都應該鎖緊房門。
編輯：網站的數據統計表錯瞭。哈登的助攻失誤比是 10:1，所以他們一共送出瞭 23 次助攻。
[ – ] [ CHI ] Carlos Boozerspunkymonkeyreturns 1060 指標 11 小時前
I lock my doors every night.
公牛球迷：可不得鎖好房門嗎，這可是芝加哥啊！ [ 譯註 1 ]
[ 譯註 1 ] 芝加哥犯罪率很高，槍擊案頻發。
[ – ] CavaliersBarracudaEz152 835 指標 11 小時前
Warriors:
[ ] Sp00ked
[ ] Not sp00ked
[ ❌ ] Somewhere in between
勇士：
【】驚訝
【】不驚訝
【❌】有點小驚訝
[ – ] [ SEA ] Gary Paytonphilwelch 451 指標 10 小時前
Remember when OKC was gonna be better than Houston this year?
記得有人說過本賽季的雷霆會比火箭更出色嗎？
[ – ] Rocketsbaljeettjinder 633 指標 9 小時前
Considering how much OKC is struggling I wouldn ’ t be surprised if Westbrook won MVP again this year
火箭球迷：考慮到目前雷霆的掙紮，如果威少本賽季再拿一次 MVP，我也不會感到意外。
[ – ] CavaliersChiefKyrief 136 指標 8 小時前
A lot of Rockets news goes unnoticed on here. Beard had 37&10 but you'd be hard pressed to find more than one clip on the top page
許多火箭的新聞都被人們無視。大胡子拿下瞭 37+10，但是你很難在首頁找到第二條火箭新聞的鏈接。
[ – ] HawksAkashkulkarni 82 指標 7 小時前
we'd apparently rather watch lebron miss a dunk or kyrie talk about veganism
很明顯，我們更想看詹姆斯扣飛，或者歐文談論素食主義。
[ – ] allfangs 4 指標 6 小時前
to be fair lebron whiffing on a breakaway dunk is a little concerning
說實話，如果詹姆斯扣飛瞭一個快攻扣籃，我會感到有點擔憂。
[ – ] EastPNRisTheWayToPlay 4 指標 5 小時前
to be fair lebron doing anything concerns someone.
說實話，詹姆斯做任何事情，總有人很感到擔憂。
Why CP3 and Harden gel so quickly in less games while PG13/Russ/Melo have such a hard time?
為什麼燈泡組合在更少的比賽裡迅速融合，而雷霆三巨頭卻在經歷一段艱難的時期？
CP3 had missed games and he came back and right away he was totally in sync with Harden, they optimize each other game.
While OKC has been perfectly healthy, but struggle so much to integrate PG13 & Melo with Russ.
Does the fact that Morey put this team together with analytics vs Presti just grabbed "the biggest names" available have something to do with that?
保羅缺陣瞭許多比賽，當他傷愈回歸時，他馬上就進入瞭正軌，跟哈登完美互補，最大化倆人的優點。
可是，盡管雷霆沒有傷病問題，泡椒和甜瓜遲遲沒有跟威少完成兼容。
莫雷的高階數據分析建隊模式 VS 普雷斯蒂的 " 大牌明星 " 建隊模式是不是與目前兩隊的狀態有關呢？
[ – ] CelticsM0NETY 390 指標 10 小時前
2 players vs. 3 players and one team has 3 volume scorers whereas the other has one and a great facilitator in CP3
2 名球員對 3 名球員，一支球隊擁有 3 位得分機器，另一支球隊擁有 1 位得分機器和 1 個出色的助推器（保羅）。
[ – ] [ CLE ] Dwyane WadeKaesergod 186 指標 10 小時前
In all seriousness, this is the correct answer.
Chis Paul's unselfishness and willingness to spread the ball around rather than take shots is apparent each night. Six points, 13 assists last night speak to this statement. I believe Paul understands that Harden, Gordon, and inside-the-paint Capela are all reasonably better shooters than him.
This is something we don't see with Westbrook or Carmelo. Paul George seems to be blending in satisfactorily. The two players think they always have the best shot on the court ( George to an extent as well ) which stems from a year or more of isolation plays. They'll gel eventually, but one of the two ( Carmelo/Russ ) has to budge.
嚴肅點，這個答案是正確的。
保羅的無私和寧願傳球、也不投籃的意願在每場比賽中都有明顯的體現。昨天的 6 分 13 助攻說明瞭一切。我相信保羅清楚，哈登、戈登和站在油漆區內的卡佩拉都是比他更出色的射手。
相反，我們在威少或甜瓜身上看不到這一點。泡椒看似已經在做出犧牲瞭。威少和甜瓜認為他們總是擁有最高的單打成功率（某種程度上，泡椒也這麼認為）。他們最終會兼容的，但甜瓜和威少其中一人必須做出改變。
[ – ] RocketsImLuuk1 357 指標 8 小時前
Lmao, Chris had 6 points last night because he was 2-12 from the floor.
笑死瞭，保羅昨天隻拿 6 分是因為他 12 投僅 2 中。
[ – ] [ CLE ] Dwyane WadeKaesergod 539 指標 8 小時前
Like every r/nba commenter, I didn't actually watch the game and am just trying to sound intelligent
（樓上的樓上）：讓你抓包瞭，我跟每個論壇的球迷一樣，並沒有看比賽，隻是想得的很懂球。
[ – ] [ HOU ] Chris PaulBriand2714 615 指標 10 小時前
Smarter players, better coach
更聰明的球員，更出色的教練。
[ – ] CavaliersJAM35FH1 437 指標 10 小時前
3 hero balls against 2 scoring facilitators
3 個愛打英雄球的 VS 2 個得分助推器。
[ – ] [ CHA ] Gerald WallaceDonEYeet 1603 指標 10 小時前
All these people talking about complementary skillsets as if they weren't screaming about two ball dominant guards a month ago
這個帖子裡大傢都在談論保羅和哈登完美互補，弄得好像自己在一個月前沒有叫喚哈登和保羅是球霸一樣。
[ – ] [ WAS ] Bradley Bealjjgury 467 指標 10 小時前
You're right lol, so many people said they couldn't work together like they can't pass or something.
你說的很對哈哈哈哈，所以許多人當時說燈泡組合不可能有好結果，弄得好像他倆不會傳球一樣。
[ – ] Supersonicsgwh21 198 指標 8 小時前
2 ball dominant guards yes
But 2 ball dominant guards that are more than willing and capable to pass the ball at an extremely high level.
Melo and PG13 were the go to scorers last year for their teams, ball goes to them and then never leaves.
保羅和哈登確實算兩個粘球型後衛。
但他們的傳球能力出色，也有很強的傳球意願。
甜瓜和泡椒上賽季都是各自球隊的得分手，球到他們手上就出不來瞭。
[ – ] SpursPoIIux 91 指標 7 小時前
Yeah like what the hell. How could it not work out between one of the most efficient scorers of all time and one of the most efficient and best passers of all time?
對啊，當時有些球迷的說法真是滑稽。哈登是歷史上最高效的得分手之一，保羅則是歷史上最高效和最好的傳球手之一，他們怎麼可能合不來呢？
[ – ] RocketsHyperactivity786 109 指標 8 小時前
1. A big factor that I think many people forget - Harden recruited CP3, and CP3 wanted to go to Houston. They WANTED to play together.
Paul George, on the other hand, was traded to OKC, after a tumultuous trade-rumor filled season ( and even before then ) and was and still is highly rumored to be planning to head to the Lakers next year. Melo originally wanted Houston, with Cleveland as his 2nd choice. Yes, Russ and PG eventually managed to recruit him and get him to OKC, but it was DEFINITELY not his first choice.
1. 我認為許多人忘記瞭一個重要的因素—哈登招募瞭保羅，保羅也想去火箭。他們十分【想】要搭檔。
另一方面，泡椒是被交易至雷霆的，他在整個賽季（甚至之前也是）都飽受瞭大量的交易流言，以前和現在仍有大量流言稱他計劃下賽季加盟湖人。甜瓜原本想去火箭，騎士則是他的第二選擇。是的，威少和泡椒最終招募瞭甜瓜，並讓他來到瞭俄城，但這絕對絕對絕對不是他的第一選擇。
That's big. I'm not saying the OKC stars don't want to work together or something, but there is something to be said for stars that willingly are approaching one another, knowing many of the changes you may have to make to your game to accommodate the other.
這很重要。我並不是說雷霆的球星們不想一起搭檔之類的，但是吧，這跟球星主動地接觸另一個球星、對自己要做出的改變一清二楚並樂意去為對方犧牲是不一樣的。
CP3 and Harden definitely WANT to make this work. That's an advantage the Heatles, or the post-2016 Warriors, and most other successful "super-teams" work out. A GREAT example of this - CP3 has very obviously played more to the team's style than what was expected. Also, not sure if this is true about the Thunder stars, but CP3 and Harden seem like they're best friends ( feels like it came out of nowhere too. ) They always are hanging out with each other off-court, at concerts, probably strip clubs, etc.
燈泡組合對成功的渴望度太強太強瞭。這是熱火、2016 年之後的勇士、以及其他絕大部分成功的 " 超級球隊 " 所具備的優勢。一個很明顯的例子就是炮哥比人們預料的更多地在打球隊風格的籃球。燈泡組合看似也是最好的朋友（這個來得有點突然，不知道啥時候看對眼的），而這點是否能夠應用在雷霆三巨頭的身上還有待考核。燈泡在場下總是一起出遊，去演唱會夜店之類的。
2. Staggering minutes + roster ( and rhythm ) : CP3 and Harden can both near perfectly substitute for one another. When only one is on the floor, both Harden and CP3 have Ryno and Gordon spacing the floor, Capela or Nene rolling to the rim, Ariza/Tucker/LMaM spotting up in the corners. There's AMPLE opportunity for either of them to establish a rhythm on their own. Donovan has a more difficult time with staggering his group, they're all different types of players
2. 交叉的時間和球隊陣容（以及節奏）：燈泡組合都能夠接近完美地接力。當隻有一人在場時，燈泡組合都會有安德森和戈登在場上拉開空間，卡佩拉或內內沖向籃筐，阿裡紮 / 塔克 / 巴莫特呆在底角。兩人都有大量的機會靠自己建立節奏。多諾萬在交錯使用他的陣容時遇到瞭更多的問題，雷霆三巨頭都是不一樣類別的球員。
3. I do think coaching is a sorta big deal. Not saying Donovan is a bad coach, but I definitely do think that on offense, he doesn't have the sort of vision D'Antoni does.
3. 我的確認為執教能力是一個很重要的因素。我並不是指多諾萬是個糟糕的教練，但是我十分贊同，在進攻端，他不具備德安東尼的遠見。
4. Shooting : Both CP3 and Harden are great catch-and-shoot shooters. Compare the Warriors, who didn't struggle all too much ( relatively ) to fit Durant in, and the Heatles. Heatles didn't have good shooters, especially before LeBron went 40%+ from the 3, Bosh shot the 3 well, and they figured out how to incorporate it into their offense.
When you have good shooters, you always have a back-up plan for a play where you have one player just spotting-up/running around screens. Making them do it too much, like with Love, isn't ideal, but HEY, that's where point #2 comes along! Worst case scenario for the CP3 and Harden pairing was that they were deadly when staggered but one of them was always spotting up when they played together.
4. 投籃：燈泡組合都是出色的接球投籃射手。可以跟勇士、熱火比一下。勇士並不需要費什麼功夫就能讓杜蘭特融入球隊方面。熱火最開始並沒有出色的投手，詹姆斯的三分命中率還沒有達到 40%、波什也沒有開發遠投。但是最後，熱火眾將解決瞭如何適應彼此進攻的問題，開發瞭投籃。
當你擁有出色的投手時，你總是會擁有一個備用的戰術計劃，其中一名球員可以等待定點投籃或繞擋拆。過多地使用這個戰術是不理想的，就好像樂福現在的處境。這就到瞭我說的第二點瞭，燈泡組合的最可怕的時候是兩人交錯使用時，而最最糟糕的情況也不過是燈泡其中一人站樁等接球投籃罷瞭，可是他倆都是出色的接球投籃手啊 !
[ Serious ] Are CP3 and Harden good enough together to challenge GSW?
【認真的】燈泡組合是否已經足夠出色到能夠挑戰勇士瞭？
[ – ] Rocketsat_work_safe_acct 273 指標 9 小時前
If I'm being honest, it would take a GSW injury for it to happen. Even then I'm not yet convinced.
火箭球迷：如果要我說實話，我認為除非勇士出現傷病，這樣的情況才會發生。而且就算是勇士出現傷病，我也沒有十足的信心。
[ – ] NBAkonyinsertyearhere 78 指標 7 小時前
And if you weren't being honest?
那如果你不說實話呢？
[ – ] Rocketsat_work_safe_acct 409 指標 7 小時前
Rockets in 5.
火箭球迷：火箭 5 場解決戰鬥。
[ – ] CavaliersTheBigEgg23 726 指標 9 小時前
Nobody's going to be favorites or even split 50/50 odds against the Warriors, but the Rockets have as good a chance as anybody.
騎士球迷：誰對上勇士都是下狗，連五五開都不可能。但是火箭的勝算可以說是聯盟 29 支球隊中最高的瞭。
[ – ] Evil_Skip_Bayless 109 指標 8 小時前
If they rain threes of course they can beat anyone but can they stay hot enough to overcome the pure talent over there.
如果火箭下起三分雨，他們當然可以擊敗任何球隊，但他們能否保持足夠火熱的手感來擊敗勇士的純天賦呢？
[ – ] ParlosCuyol 242 指標 9 小時前
Houston's huge advantage over most teams is that they can play a superstar point guard for 48 minutes and thus crush the bench minutes. They don't have a weak lineup.
The problem against the Warriors is that when you have Curry/Klay/Durant/Draymond you can set up your rotation to counter that by having two of those guys out there at all times.
相比於絕大部分球隊，火箭的一個巨大優勢就是他們可以在 48 分鐘內都擁有一個超級明星控衛，摧毀對方的替補時間。他們就沒有菜雞陣容（到瞭季後賽）。
問題在於，勇士能讓四巨頭中的其中二人隨時呆在場上交錯使用。
[ – ] NuggetsDrBoofenshmirtz 106 指標 8 小時前 *
Problem also lies in that the Warriors also have one of the best benches in the league, so Harden/CP3 are gonna have a harder time running up the score when the GSW superstars are off the court. If the GSW bench can hold Harden/CP3 to a relatively average scoring clip and not let them run up the score ( which the bench has shown they are capable of ) , that puts Houston in a bad position against the Warriors where a 10 point lead basically means that you're tied.
還有一個問題，勇士也擁有聯盟最出色的板凳席之一，所以當勇士的超級球星下場時，燈泡組合也很難拉開比分。如果勇士的替補可以限制燈泡組合到相對比較一般的得分水平，並不被拉開比分（他們已經證明瞭這一點），火箭將會陷入一個糟糕的處境，10 分的領先基本意味著你和勇士還是打平的。
[ – ] mangotictacs 198 指標 9 小時前
Capela and Nene can take their match-ups. All the wings have to do is defend like their lives depend on it and hit open 3s, which they generally do. Harden and CP3 can outplay Klay and Steph. How do they counter small-ball?
卡佩拉和內內都能對上他們對位的球員。所有的側翼球員必須視死如歸地防守，並命中空位三分，這就是他們的生存之道。燈泡組合可以壓過水花兄弟。他們怎麼對抗小球陣容呢？且聽我慢慢道來。
Capela is one of the best at keeping up around the perimeter, and he's a strong rebounder - both of which are utterly crucial. Harden, CP3 and Gordon need to fight over screens and maintain effort, they're all decent defenders against bigger shooters too. After that it's just hoping that Trev, LMAM and Tucker can slow KD down. That's 3 quick and strong 6'8 ( PJ is 6'6 ) wings who can stick with KD for 40 minutes a game.
卡佩拉現在是聯盟最牛逼的護筐者之一，也是一個超強的籃板機器——這兩點很重要。燈泡組合和戈登需要擊敗對手的擋拆，保持拼勁。這三個人在面對更高大的投手時防守效果還不錯。此外，你隻能寄希望於阿裡紮、巴莫特和塔克能夠稍微限制一下 KD。這三位移動迅速、強壯、身高兩米多（塔克矮一點）的側翼球員可以在 40 分鐘內纏繞 KD。
And if they can pick the right moments to help off Iggy and Draymond then they're actually looking pretty good. Warriors are immense on D but I have a lot of faith in CP3 and Harden to exploit the open man once the Warriors help off.
60/40 to the Warriors
如果他們在正確的時間裡補防瞭一哥和追夢，他們的表現就相當不錯。勇士在防守端十分出色，但我十分相信燈泡組合能夠在勇士補防時找到空位的機會。
64 開，勇士贏。
[ – ] PelicansConsumedAM 149 指標 8 小時前
this analysis reads more 60/40 Rockets if anything
這個分析看上去更像是 64 開，火箭贏。
[ – ] Rocketssplanket 262 指標 8 小時前
And that tells you just how good the Warriors are.
這說明瞭勇士是多麼出色。
[ – ] [ GSW ] Ian Clarkoscarony 56 指標 7 小時前
Or it tells you just how scared everyone is of saying the Warriors are beatable.
勇士球迷：或者這說明瞭，每個人都多麼忌憚勇士的不可阻擋。
[ – ] RocketsTheSneakyLurker 145 指標 7 小時前
y ’ all aren ’ t man...
Included in that analysis is harden fighting over screens for a 7 game series. Love the guy more than my own life and his defense has improved but it ’ s not happening. That means Thompson will find himself open a lot. Meanwhile on the other end Klay always gives harden a tough time.
No way Klay, Draymond, KD, and Curry are beatable. Injuries or no deal to me.
Edit: also when I watch the matchup Steph has always torched CP3.
火箭球迷：關鍵你勇根本不是人啊 …
我提到，哈登在 7 場系列賽中要一直戰勝對手的擋拆。我很喜歡這傢夥，比喜歡我自己還多，他的防守也有提高，但哈登是不可能一直專註於繞擋拆的。這意味著湯普森會找到許多空位機會。而且克萊總是會讓哈登在進攻端不好受。
勇士不可能會被擊敗的。要麼勇士現在傷病，要麼白日夢。
p.s. 看看對位，庫裡總是摧毀保羅 …
