庫裡傷愈後輸出爆炸,搶 MVP 機率大增?

01-30

自傷病歸來,庫裡在十二場比賽裡的場均數據是難以置信的 31.5/5.3/6.5,三項命中率接近 55%/51%/87%。並有著生涯新高的真實命中率,70.1%。作為比較,NBA 隻有泰森 - 錢德勒和阿爾蒂 - 吉爾摩曾經得到過 70% 的真實命中率,而且他們的主要得分手段是扣籃和補籃。

In the 12 games since Steph Curry has come back from injury he has averaged an incredibly 31.5/5.3/6.5 on nearly 55/51/87. Hats a true shooting percentage of 70.1%. For reference, only Tyson Chandler and Artis Gilmore ever shot above 70% true shooting, and they both lived on dunks and put backs.

With the Cavaliers slumping, Harden missing time, and Leonard out, the MVP race is more open than before. If Steph can keep even close to this pace, he could close the season with 68 games played, a 28/5/6.5 stat line with 300 threes and 68% true shooting

隨著騎士陷入泥潭,哈登缺席比賽,倫納德不能上場,庫裡競爭 MVP 的機會暴漲。如果庫裡能將火熱的狀態持續下去(甚至接近這個狀態就可以),在賽季結束之時,他能夠出場 68 次,砍下 28+5+6.5、300 個三分球以及—— 68% 的真實命中率。

Just to give this season perspective, in Steph ’ s historic 2016 season he has a true shooting of 66.9%. This season it ’ s 68%. In 2016 he had .318 ws/48, now he has .296 ws/48. He had a PER of 31.5, now one of 29.5. That season he averaged 30.1/5.4/6.7, now he ’ s at 28.1/5.1/6.5. this season is 95% as historic at 2016, and he ’ s somehow shooting better!

庫裡這個賽季是什麼水準呢?不妨參考下他傳奇般的 2015-16 賽季。他在全票 MVP 賽季的真實命中率是 66.9%,而這個賽季是 68%。2016 賽季庫裡的每分鐘勝利貢獻值是 0.318,目前他的每分鐘勝利貢獻值是 0.296。當時他的效率值是 31.5,現在是 29.5。那個賽季他場均 30.1/5.4/6.7,這個賽季庫裡場均 28.1/5.1/6.5。所以這個賽季庫裡的表現和 16 賽季一樣絕對是歷史級別的,而且不知怎的,他的投射水平甚至更高瞭!

[ – ] WarriorsAndy_TT 359 指標 11 小時前

Curry about to open that 50/50/90 Club

勇士球迷:庫裡將要開張自己的 190 俱樂部(50+50+90)啦!

[ – ] BullsEma919 185 指標 10 小時前

Somehow people would still say Durant is better.

然而詭異的是,(把數據放在面前)人們還是會說杜蘭特更棒。

[ – ] KyKid98 253 指標 9 小時前

"Steph is averaging 32 a game with better efficiency than prime Shaq, but let me explain to you why durant is better because he blocks a couple shots per game"

" 庫裡的得分效率超過巔峰期鯊魚,場均砍下 32 分,但是就讓我來給你們解釋一下為什麼杜蘭特更優秀——因為他每場比賽都能送出兩個火鍋啊!"

[ – ] WarriorsThe_Great_Saiyaman21 52 指標 5 小時前

More like better efficiency than anyone else in NBA history, honestly. It's like if prime Shaq was a 90% FT shooter.

勇士球迷:應該說是得分效率高於 NBA 史上所有人。說實話,庫裡好像有 90% 罰球命中率的巔峰鯊魚。

[ – ] MavericksDirkNowitzkisWife [ S ] 33 指標 3 小時前

Steph is somehow shooting from 2 as good as prime Shaq did. That ’ s the crazy part.

不知怎的,庫裡兩分球的效率竟然跟巔峰鯊魚一樣。這才是最不可思議的地方。

[ – ] WarriorsKal-Kent 401 指標 10 小時前

i remember people were saying Bron was a better shooter than Curry this year lol

勇士球迷:我還記得當初誰說今年的勒佈朗是一個比庫裡更優秀的射手呢,哈哈哈。

[ – ] Mavericksha1fhuman 134 指標 9 小時前

Well to be fair, LeBron started the season quite hot at over 40% from 3 and have regressed to shooting like ass. Steph kinda struggled at the start so his percentages were lower at some point.

公平地講,勒佈朗這賽季初的手感燙著呢,三分線外的命中率有 40%,然後這一段時間又倒退到原來的投射水準瞭。賽季初,庫裡的手感不是那麼好,所以有一段時間命中率比較低。

[ – ] Wizardslivefreeordont 174 指標 9 小時前

Lebron does that every single year. People just don ’ t remember

勒佈朗哪年不是這樣啊,人們就是記不住罷瞭。

[ – ] [ GSW ] Klay ThompsonMurdathon3000 94 指標 8 小時前

Also, Steph always starts the year slower and by all-star break is really grooving.

勇士球迷:而且,庫裡一直比較慢熱。但是到瞭全明星期間就能完全進入狀態瞭。

[ – ] Cavaliersbabyboyyyy 7 指標 4 小時前

wrong. Lebron in his first 32 games this year shot 41.1% from 3PT on 5.1 attempts per game.

for comparison, here are his first 3 years back in Cleveland and those first 32 games.

2016-2017: 37.3%, 4.8 3PA

2015-2016: 28.5%, 4.1 3PA

2014-2015: 37.4%, 4.8 3PA

so this year he was shooting almost 4% better from three than any of those other years on the most attempts. Not sure where you get "Lebron does that every single year" from. Guess you just don ’ t remember very well

騎士球迷:錯瞭錯瞭,勒佈朗在這個賽季的前 32 場比賽裡場均出手 5.1 次三分,有著 41.1% 的三分球命中率。

作為比較,下面是他回到騎士隊的頭三年的開局 32 場比賽的三分球相關數據:

2016-2017: 37.3%, 4.8 次三分出手

2015-2016: 28.5%, 4.1 次三分出手

2014-2015: 37.4%, 4.8 次三分出手

所以這個賽季勒佈朗的三分球命中率比那三年中的任何一年都高瞭幾乎 4% 以上,出手數也創新高。所以不知道樓上那個老哥是怎麼得出 " 勒佈朗哪年不是這樣啊?" 的結論的。我猜你隻是 " 總是記不住罷瞭 " 吧。

[ – ] [ GSW ] Calbert Cheaneyswollencornholio 10 指標 4 小時前

I think his point was that Lebron is generally a streaky shooter from the outside that goes through lulls and has been throughout his career. For instance last years playoffs:

First 10 games: 45.8% from 3, 26/60 ( 43% ) from 2 PT jump shots outside he restricted area

Last 8 games 35.4%, 17/44 ( 38.6% ) on 2 PT jump shots out of the restricted area.

勇士球迷:我覺得那個老哥想說的是勒佈朗是一個不穩定的外線射手,狀態起伏充滿瞭他的整個職業生涯。比如在去年季後賽:

前十場,勒佈朗的三分球命中率是 45.8%,禁區外的兩分球是 26/60 ( 43% ) 。

後八場,他的三分球命中率是 35.4%,禁區外的兩分球是 17/44 ( 38.6% ) 。

[ – ] WarriorsQuantumCake 15 指標 8 小時前

Thing is, 3 point shooting is such a high variance stat that using it in a context smaller than a season is really pointless when deciding someone's shooting ability. Even one season is usually not enough data to make a proper judgement, the likes of Steph and Klay are considered elite shooters cause they've been doing it for multiple season's in a row. If people are gonna use stats to make any sort of claim they really need to understand the context and limitations of said stat, otherwise its just worthless drivel.

勇士球迷:問題是,三分球投射是個非常多變的數據。如果比賽樣本少於一個賽季的話,引用該樣本判斷一個球員的投射水平真的沒有意義。其實就算是比賽樣本達到瞭整整一個賽季,也往往不具備充分的說服力。像庫裡和克萊這樣的球員被定義為精英射手是因為他們能夠在連續幾個賽季都打出這樣的表現。若要用數據說事兒,那最好要明白數據的環境背景及其局限性,否則這隻不過是無意義的口水話罷瞭。

[ – ] NetsNYG10 20 指標 8 小時前

Curry is definitely in that handful of players that I believe can put up whatever absurd numbers he feels like

我覺得,庫裡就是那種 " 今天拿什麼變態數據取決於哥今天什麼心情 " 的球員,聯盟裡真沒幾個。

[ – ] [ DEN ] Nikola Jokicsorakaisthegoat 198 指標 11 小時前

Steph not being considered the second best player in the world because Durant is taller more athletic or whatnot is tragic to me.

用來反駁庫裡不是聯盟第二人的論據大覽:杜蘭特更高,運動能力更強什麼的。

隻能用呵呵兩個字形容。

[ – ] Warriors BandwagonHakunaMakata 104 指標 10 小時前

This is what makes Steph so special, he is being compared with these genetic freaks of nature and he actually has a case against them.

勇士球迷:這就是為什麼庫裡如此特殊啊,他正被人們用來和那些有著變態身體天賦的怪物比較,而且這麼一比,哎喲,庫裡還真有那麼一拼。

[ – ] BullsEma919 60 指標 10 小時前 *

Exacty. Some people talk about size like it's everything that matters but it's way deeper than that, it's honestly annoying that some guys say "Durant is better than Curry because he can affect the game more with his size" when stats say the contrary, it's really absurd. Curry is the uncontested leader of the GOAT team, give him some respect ffs.

說得對。有些人天天把體格體格掛在嘴邊,覺得這是最重要的。可是籃球可比簡單的體格對比深奧多瞭啊。說真的,一些人總是說什麼 " 杜蘭特比庫裡好,原因就是他的體型賦予瞭他更好的影響比賽的能力 ",聽的我想打人,太荒謬瞭——數據顯示的是相反的結果啊!(庫裡更有場上影響力)

庫裡無疑是這支歷史最佳球隊的領袖,快特麼給他點尊重吧!

[ – ] i_am_very_dumb 52 指標 9 小時前

Honestly I think that Curry might well have the greatest offensive peak of all time. Obviously the stats are otherworldly, but even past that, he's the most dangerous off-ball player of all time. Once he's within 30' of the hoop you have to chase him around like a lunatic because any amount of space lets him take a super high value shot. Like, really good slashers or centers force you to collapse your defense, which opens up the outside. Curry opens up the entire floor, he's a uniquely game-changing player.

說實話,個人認為庫裡的進攻上限可能是歷史最高的。很明顯他的數據已經十分超群瞭。但是拋開這些不說,他還是史上最有威脅的無球球員。一旦他處於籃筐外九米以內,你就得像個瘋子一樣追著他跑,因為無論多小的空間都足以讓庫裡投出一個超高質量的球。就好像一個非常優秀的突破手或者中鋒可以逼迫對手收縮防守,這就可以為外線騰出空間。而庫裡可以為場上所有位置創造空間,他簡直是一個獨一無二的可以改變比賽的球員。

[ – ] TimberwolvesMossed84 17 指標 5 小時前

If Steph is better than Durant, and Durant is pretty much equal to Lebron.

Steph is the best player in basketball.

如果庫裡比杜蘭特棒,杜蘭特和勒佈朗差不多優秀的話,那麼庫裡應該就是籃球界最棒的球員瞭吧。

[ – ] derozansmole 54 指標 11 小時前

Honestly, I don't see what makes LeBron better if Durant isn't. I really don't. People are afraid to flat out say Curry is the best player in the world

說實話,如果杜蘭特沒庫裡強,那恕我也看不出詹姆斯比庫裡強在哪瞭。人們總是不敢直率地說出庫裡就是這個世界上最好的球員。

[ – ] [ DEN ] Nikola Jokicsorakaisthegoat 50 指標 11 小時前

I think playoff Lebron is the best player in the world. Regular season i'd give to Curry tho.

我覺得季後賽模式的勒佈朗才是這個世界上最好的球員,常規賽的話,我還是選庫裡好瞭。

[ – ] ThunderJeromeBilledo 6 指標 11 小時前

I think because LeBron is a player that a whole system is built around, and that the system ( aka bron ) has put them in a position to contend for 7 years straight. Curry is good, but we havent seen enough of him yet to confirm that he is indeed the number 1 player in the world. Durant is arguably better than steph because he has been in WCF contention for around the same length of time as Bron has been in finals contention. And now, itll be harder to guage the two seperately seeing as they are on the same team.

edit: feelsbadman

雷霆球迷:我覺得因為整個球隊體系是圍繞著勒佈朗建立的,並且這個體系(勒佈朗體系)已經幫助他們連續七年處在爭冠的位置上瞭。庫裡確實很好,但是我們還沒有足夠的證據來證明他就是這個星球上最棒的球員。杜蘭特可能比庫裡強,因為他沖擊西決的時間跨度剛好跟詹姆斯沖擊總決賽的時間跨度相近。現在要想單獨比較庫裡和杜蘭特就更難瞭,因為他們在一個球隊打球瞭。

編輯:作為雷霆球迷,我難過極瞭。 [ – ] [ GSW ] Wilt ChamberlainBRCitizen 16 指標 5 小時前 *

Last night was certainly an MVP come out party. Kyrie v Steph, both going torch mode, and Steph coming out head and shoulders on top of the guy who is the most sensational and fun to watch PG who also had a great game. Did against the top ranked defense on national TV.

勇士球迷:昨晚絕對是一場 MVP 誕生的派對。歐文對抗庫裡,兩個人都進入瞭殺神模式。而全場比賽下來,雖然全聯盟最具觀賞性的控衛表現不俗,但庫裡還是遠勝歐文。不要忘瞭,凱爾特人的防守是聯盟最佳,而庫裡在全美直播中擊潰瞭對手。

[ – ] [ SAS ] Kawhi LeonardThe_Dumblebee 65 指標 11 小時前

MVP

庫裡 MVP!

[ – ] jakefromallstate1 31 指標 11 小時前

Steph missed more time than harden lol, if harden missing time effects his chances then steph should be disqualified

庫裡缺席的比賽場次比哈登還多哦,如果哈登缺席比賽影響到瞭評選 MVP 的話,庫裡恐怕就沒資格瞭吧。

[ – ] [ LAL ] Kareem Abdul-Jabbarctye85 18 指標 11 小時前

I expect he will be since he'll end up playing only 67 games, and that's if he plays every single one from here on out, which is unlikely to say the least.

同意樓上,滿打滿算,庫裡到賽季結束之時的出場數也隻有 67 場,而庫裡也很可能無法做到在剩餘的比賽中保持全勤。

[ – ] [ CLE ] Derrick RoseLeKing_James 37 指標 11 小時前

If LeBron doesn't win it, I'd sure hope Steph does.

騎士球迷:如果勒佈朗沒能拿到 MVP 的話,我真心希望庫裡脫穎而出。

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