美球迷談論 NBA 球員收入,2K 躺槍

09-22

[ Rovell/Marks ] When $35M is really $15M: How much NBA stars actually earn

ESPN:3500 萬美元薪水?到手的其實才 1500 萬。NBA 明星們到底掙多少錢?

以庫裡為例(不包括場外收入)

加法:他的下賽季的合同工資(gross pay)為 3468 萬美元,排名聯盟第一。

減法:交給第三方保管(escrow)346 萬美元,聯邦稅(federal taxes)1165 萬美元,城市 / 州稅(city/state taxes)410 萬,付給經紀人(agent)95 萬美元,存入退休金賬戶(401k)一萬八。

加法:2016-2017 賽季交給第三方暫管的收入回到瞭庫裡的賬戶中,60 萬美元;虧空(shortfall)17 萬美元。

凈工資 / 到手工資(net pay):1526 萬美元,聯盟第三,占合同工資的 44.01%。

詹姆斯合同工資為 3328 萬美元,聯盟第二。到手工資為 1673 萬美元,聯盟第一。占比為 50.29%

米爾薩普合同工資為 3076 萬美元,聯盟第二。到手工資為 1556 萬美元,排名聯盟第二。占比為 50.58%

海沃德合同工資為 2972 萬美元,聯盟第四,到手工資為 1474 萬美元,聯盟第七。占比為 49.61%

紅色格為合同工資,藍色格為實際到手工資。右側為實際到手工資占比。

[ – ] [ MIL ] Ray AllenMonte735 1234 指標 23 小時前

NBA 2K taught me the struggles of being an NBA player. It sucks being a basketball player when you can only afford a haircut and a t shirt with your weekly pay. Sometimes the crooked owners lie to you saying you earned 1000 VC but, your bank account only shows 550 VC. I can't imagine living the life of a NBA player.

2K 讓我真正體會到瞭一個 NBA 球員的心酸苦痛。我 tm 在 2K 裡一周掙的錢光夠我剪個頭、買個 T 恤的。

有時候那幫不要臉的老板還舔著臉跟我撒謊,說我掙瞭 1000 個 2K 幣,但 tm 我的賬戶上才有一半進賬。NBA 球員的生活簡直沒得過,太慘瞭。

[ – ] [ MIA ] Hassan WhitesideCaveRape 274 指標 21 小時前

Just imagine. This article did a nice job showing how much VC NBA players lose due to taxes

確實慘。上面幾個圖就完美展現瞭 NBA 球員由於稅收要被扣掉多少 2K 幣。

[ – ] Hoyata21 17 指標 15 小時前

Right holy shit I'd be so mad to pay that amount of tax. We all see the gross they sign for but imagine getting a 30 million check, then finding out you only get 15 of that

太對瞭,我要交那麼多稅的話整個人都得原地爆炸。想想吧,你簽的 3000 萬美元合同,到手的才一半,你啥感受?

[ – ] [ OKC ] Enes Kantermananlak 156 指標 21 小時前

This is why I'm not getting 2K this year lol

這就是今年我不入手 2K 的原因,哈哈哈。

[ – ] Raptorsfabrar 146 指標 20 小時前

2k18 is pretty much a pay-to-win game now and I'm frankly flabbergasted at the level of greed 2K is showing with this VC bullshit. MyLeague is the only playable mode these days.

2K 現在貪婪到什麼程度你知道嗎?還出個虛擬貨幣,我都氣得發抖,2K18 上基本就是花錢買勝利。" 我的聯盟 " 是現在唯一能玩的模式。

[ – ] [ BOS ] E'Twaun Moorepokexchespin 58 指標 20 小時前

Except the sim engine is garbage : ( . A team with with ibaka and Lin as their best players won second seed in the west in one with over 60 wins, Celtics went 40-42, nuggets went 30-52

不過 2K 的虛擬引擎垃圾的一 B。伊巴卡和林書豪領銜的球隊竟然在模擬中取得瞭西部第二的戰績,而且還超過 60 勝,凱爾特人才 40 勝 42 負,掘金直接 30 勝 52 負。

[ – ] [ CHI ] Cristiano Feliciobenquadinaros 42 指標 20 小時前

Always fun in 2K myLeague when the Trail Blazers sweep the Warriors in the Conference Finals.

我的聯盟模式裡,每次開拓者在西決橫掃勇士的時候都十分歡樂。

[ – ] Raptorsrealsomalipirate 93 指標 19 小時前

Its why we have to hope Live gets it shit together and becomes a legitimate contender.

這就是為什麼我們要對 NBA Live 心懷希望,盼望著他們能重振旗鼓、成為 2K 的靠譜的競爭對手。

[ – ] MKG32 32 指標 18 小時前

I'm sounding old and pessimistic but I miss 2k11 so much and what should have been.

2k became too greedy when they realized EA wasn't even coming close, even when they finally released a game again. The market is and was theirs.

NBA 2k used to be a rather 'pure' game, now it's mostly aimed for a really young ( teenage ) generation and it became too gimmicky which I'm not a fan of. I still think it's possible to keep everyone happy but they rather sell VC and make a lot of money through this.

我以下的這番話可能聽起來比較悲觀,但是我太想念 2K11 瞭,2K 本來能做得更好,我真的為他們感到惋惜。2K 在意識到 EA 公司不能夠給他們造成壓力之後就開始變得貪婪,就算 NBA Live 好不容易出新版瞭,2K 也吃相難看。市場已經被 2K 完全占有瞭。

2K 過去更純粹,現在基本上就是為年輕一代打造的遊戲,心眼太多,我不喜歡。我依然認為 2K 能做出讓大傢都滿意的遊戲,但是他們開始賣虛擬貨幣,從中掙瞭好多錢。

[ – ] Warriorsnotsellingjeans 473 指標 23 小時前

Cool article. I expect Lebron in no state income tax Texas next year, so that he can finally get that Spotify Premium bumping in the locker room

ESPN 這篇文章不錯。我預計詹姆斯明年會去不交州收入稅的德州打球,這樣他就能省下錢來購買 Spotify 會員、在更衣室嗨起來瞭。 [ 譯註 1 ]

[ 譯註 1 ] Spotify 是一個音樂軟件,之前有報道稱詹姆斯沒有購買會員,用的是免費版。

[ – ] GuacKiller 182 指標 21 小時前

LeBron probably got kicked from Kyrie's Netflix sharing.

歐文可能早就不給詹姆斯共享 Netflix 會員權限瞭。 [ 譯註 2 ]

[ 譯註 2 ] Netflix 是世界著名視頻點播公司,也是美國人民看美劇、電影的常用渠道。會員可以將自己點播的電影電視劇共享給好友。

[ – ] Trail BlazersMicome 136 指標 20 小時前

When asked if he had informed LeBron before changing the Netflix password, Kyrie responded "No, why would I?"

記者問歐文改 netflix 密碼之前問過詹姆斯瞭嗎,歐文回答:" 不,我為什麼要告訴他?" [ 譯註 3 ]

[ 譯註 3 ] Stephen A Smith 之前問歐文離隊前有跟詹姆斯交流過嗎,歐文的回答跟這位網友調侃的一樣。

[ – ] Warriorsanothercookie90 5 指標 16 小時前

Even if they are in a state with no state income tax you get taxed based on where you play games. So you get a tax break on 41 games, but the other 41 can result in a different paycheck depending on how much you play other teams in more tax heavy areas.

就算 NBA 球員效力的球隊所屬州沒有州收入稅,他們到客場比賽的時候還是會被扣稅。一個賽季的一半比賽是沒稅,但是另外 41 場比賽收啊,收的數量取決於對陣的球隊所屬州的稅務政策。

[ – ] Anansispider 273 指標 23 小時前

Wow at those state Taxes for CA and Toronto. Imagine how many IG models gets you with $15M a year.

臥槽,多倫多和加州的州稅簡直慘絕人寰啊。1500 萬美元能讓你一年上多少個網紅啊。

[ – ] WarriorsDraintheshots 148 指標 23 小時前

DELETE this before Klay sees this.

勇士球迷:別擾亂我們軍心,克雷看見你這條評論怎麼辦?跑瞭你負責? [ 譯註 4 ]

[ 譯註 4 ] 勇士處於加州。

[ – ] Lakers Bandwagonvictor396 13 指標 21 小時前

IT's okay, you still have the weed thing.

沒事,加州大麻還合法呢。

[ – ] [ TOR ] Quincy AcyJKirbs14 221 指標 23 小時前

I hate to tell you, but Toronto ain't a state fam.

猛龍球迷:大兄弟一看就是美國人啊,多倫多可不是州啊。

[ – ] ferdinand14 85 指標 23 小時前

Not op, but read it as "state taxes in CA" and "Toronto".

我不是層主啊,但是他的話可以理解為多倫多的稅和加州的州稅。

[ – ] rizkybizness 58 指標 23 小時前

I would like to buy a comma.

加個逗號能死?

[ – ] Warriorsru_benz 51 指標 23 小時前

I would like to tax you for that comma.

加個逗號要扣稅的。

[ – ] Cavalierscamsteria 111 指標 23 小時前

Steph's numbers are skewed a bit because of him about tripling his earnings this coming season. None of this is surprising. They get taxed as much as any other person would who makes as much as them.

因為庫裡下賽季的收入翻瞭三番,所以他的被扣收入看起來可能比較驚人。但是真的沒什麼好奇怪的,跟這些 NBA 球員掙的一樣多的人也是被扣瞭這麼多稅。

[ – ] Supersonicsexasperated_dreams 48 指標 22 小時前

Im pretty sure business men get taxed less on capital gains and such

商業人士的資本收入被稅的幅度要小一些。

[ – ] Sw_s1qu_3K4laeysi 59 指標 21 小時前

If that's where they get the bulk of income from, sure. But keep in mind that these players have a ton of capital which is probably sitting with a professional asset manager. So when they're pulling in a few million in additional income from investments, they only get taxed at capital gains rates. It's not such a raw deal in the end because they're so young, and those investments will pretty rapidly outpace the salary income anyway.

如果他們的收入主要來源就是資本收入的話,當然是這樣。但是要記住,這些球員也有大量的資本,專業的資產管理人員會幫助他們打理。所以當 NBA 球員獲得幾百萬美元的投資收入時,稅率還是根據資本收入來的。因為 NBA 球員比較年輕,這些投資的回報最終還是會以很快的速度超出單純的薪水收入的。

[ – ] HawksOlafdePolaf 160 指標 23 小時前

I mean sucks for them but the only reason I'm interested in their salaries is for Cap reasons - most players make more than enough money regardless.

這些球員被扣這麼多稅對他們自己來說當然不是什麼好事,但是從我個人的角度出發,我關註他們的薪水的唯一原因就是工資帽。大部分球員掙的錢絕對足夠他們養傢糊口瞭。

[ – ] [ NOP ] Jrue HolidayGood_NewsEveryone 117 指標 22 小時前

Oh no, they have to pay taxes and contribute to a 401k. Just like fucking everyone else.

哦不不,這些 NBA 球員竟然要交稅,怎麼能跟我們這些普通民眾一樣呢?TX

[ – ] RaptorsSmurfBearPig 143 指標 23 小時前

here come's the flood of " these guy make more than enough " comments.

I used to be a big NFL fan and i would much rather see mediocre players sign for 20 millions than have rich owners short changing their players who take all the risks ... especially considering that most owners have no shame in begging for tax credits whenever they can.

評論中湧進來一堆 " 這些球員掙得錢足夠他們養傢糊口 " 的評論。

我曾經是個鐵桿 NFL 粉絲,我寧願看到普通球員拿到 2000 萬美元的合同,也不願看到他們的老板們虧待瞭上場拼命的球員。這些老板哭天喊地要稅務減免的時候可沒有什麼羞恥感而言。

[ – ] RocketsZemulon 154 指標 23 小時前

NFL players are lucky they even get paid with the shit union they have

NFL 球員能掙著錢就不錯瞭,他們的工會簡直垃圾的一 B。

[ – ] RaptorsSmurfBearPig 82 指標 23 小時前 *

yea, i just can't watch it anymore. Knowing that these guys are basically killing themselves for small paychecks ( all things considered ) and are left to rot once their career is done... With everything we know about concussions these guys need much higher compensation.

是啊,我真的看不下去 NFL 瞭。這些球員們幹的是敢死隊的活,掙的是白菜錢(跟他們的投入比),職業生涯一結束,就沒人管他們瞭。橄欖球與腦震蕩的關聯已經明明白白擺在桌面上瞭,NFL 球員應該獲得更多的補償。

[ – ] WarriorsSharksFanAbroad 27 指標 22 小時前

On top of all that, their careers are also so much shorter these days, the players have never been more replaceable. Job security ( and contract structure ) in football is so poor for everyone aside from a handful of players; a vast majority of players are one bad juke or low tackle away from $0 in future income.

不光如此,NFL 球員的職業生涯現在已經巨巨縮短瞭,他們的可替代性更強瞭。除瞭兩隻手都數的過來的那一批精英球員之外,其他的 NFL 球員飯碗都不是那麼穩的。很多球員都是在過一種過瞭今天可能就沒明天的生活。

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