The Cavaliers and Warriors have the same problem — they just don ’ t care ( washingtonpost.com )
華盛頓郵報:騎士和勇士目前面臨著同樣的問題 – 他們太不上心。
[ – ] [ GSW ] Klay ThompsonBear4188 1492 指標 16 小時前
Neither team is going to play well until after Christmas when they get a reminder of the task at hand.
勇士球迷:這兩支隊伍中任何一支隊伍都不會在聖誕前好好打的,直到聖誕節之後,等他們意識到瞭手頭上的任務才會擼起袖子好好幹。
[ – ] CBCN 777 指標 14 小時前
I think they realize that as long as they're in the top 4 teams, it doesn't really matter because they're just more talented than the other teams. This is especially true for the Cavs.
The Magic and Pistons are nice and all, but let's not kid ourselves that the East is a cakewalk of bad teams.
我覺得他們意識到瞭隻要他們各自都排在東西部前四,對他們來說就沒什麼所謂,因為他們本來就比其它球隊更有天賦,這點尤其適用於騎士。
魔術和活塞現在打得很好,但是咱們別天真瞭,東部菜得一逼。
[ – ] [ GSW ] Klay ThompsonBear4188 413 指標 14 小時前
I think the Warriors want to get one of the top 2 seeds to avoid a really nasty matchup in the first round. 2nd round and conf finals are probably going to be brutal regardless.
勇士球迷:我覺得勇士希望能占據西部前二,這樣就能避開惡心的第一輪客場劣勢,第二輪和西部決賽就無所謂瞭,反正都會十分殘酷。
[ – ] NBAJovianad 361 指標 13 小時前
They also don't want the WCF to be against a healthy Spurs team with Kawhi, where the Spurs have homecourt. Or a Rockets team with CP3/Harden fully healthy and at home.
GSW have something to play for; Cavs realistically just need to make it in.
勇士同樣不想在西部決賽對上一支有卡哇伊並且全員健康的馬刺隊,同時還有主場優勢;或者是有著主場優勢,同時有著健康的保羅和哈登的火箭隊。
勇士還是有點兒理由去好好打的,騎士的話現實點兒來說隻需要進季後賽就好。
[ – ] aliofg 155 指標 13 小時前
its not like playing an OKC team with PG and Melo fully integrated into the system ( Melo especially, still takes a few too many shots and is playing with that Knicks mentality, I think his shot selection will improve over the year ) would be an ideal scenario either, they've got a really tough WCF ahead of them with any of those three
而且如果遇到喬治和甜瓜完全融入體系的雷霆隊(特別是甜瓜,現在來說他還是投的多瞭那麼一丁點兒,而且抱著在尼克斯打球時的心態在打球,我覺得隨著賽季進行他的投籃選擇肯定會提升)肯定也不是什麼理想的情況。對於勇士來說如果在西部決賽遇到這三支球隊中的任何一支,他們的系列賽都會打得十分艱難。
[ – ] AlmightyZael [ ] 99 指標 13 小時前
I really hope OKC match up against GSW in the ECF. Especially if Westbrook continues the way he has been and, as you say, Melo makes smarter decisions.
我真的很希望雷霆和勇士在東部決賽遇到,特別是如果威少能繼續常龜操作,然後甜瓜能打得更加合理。
[ – ] [ CLE ] LeBron JamesWho_cares_about_name 96 指標 13 小時前
*WCF
騎士球迷:老哥,是西部決賽 …
[ – ] NBAzxc123zxc123 117 指標 13 小時前
West got tougher as a response to the warriors. GSW will have a tougher road than last year ( assuming people don't get conveniently injured again )
Rockets got better. Harden probably not too happy about losing to the MVP every year. Gordon developing. CP3 out to prove he can get to the conf. finals.
為瞭應對勇士,西部的競爭已變得更加激烈。勇士的奪冠之路肯定會比去年更加艱難(假設其他球隊的球員不會再次剛好那麼巧就受傷瞭)。
火箭變得更強瞭,哈登可能對於每年都輸 MVP 競選感到不太高興,戈登也在穩定的發育,保羅會拼命證明自己肯定可以摸到西決地板。
OKC got a lot better. Russ going to be going 150% if he runs into KD. Melo out to prove himself.
Grizzlies just waiting to grind and rough up whoever they get matched up with.
Spurs always excellent. Pop always give them a shot to win. Warriors got away with an easy series last year because Kawhi was out. Their ball-moving pass-oriented play style the one that warriors will find "hard to defend" instead "ball handler" type like Harden's.
雷霆變得強多瞭,威少見到 KD 的話肯定會拿出 150% 的勁,甜瓜也想證明自己。
灰熊在一邊磨刀霍霍準備幹一票,不管遇到哪支隊,人擋殺人,佛擋殺佛。
馬刺還是像往常一樣優秀,波波維奇總會帶領他們走向勝利。去年勇士輕松過關是由於小卡受傷。馬刺這種以轉移球、傳球為主的體系對於勇士來說也肯定會比像防守哈登這種運球手體系更加難防。
Portland threw everything they had last year against the warriors and were still swept. Dame and CJ will throw those hail mary's this year too, but Nurkic will play this time.
Wolves got more talent on their roster. Looking better than last year. Still sp00ky.
Clippers. Unsure talent wise, but Beverly seems like a good fit adding 3 point range and defense. CP3 leaving has made the Clippers less talented but their offense more versatile and less predictable.
開拓者去年毫無保留拼盡一切可還是被勇士橫掃出局,但今年不僅利拉德和 CJ 會繼續投中那些神仙球,而且努爾基奇也會打。
森林狼的陣容增加瞭更多的天賦,看起來比去年好,但還是 " 天賦看得見,未來可期。"
快船嘛,天賦來說的話不太確定,但是貝弗利看起來融入的很好,還註入瞭三分射程和防守。保羅的離開讓他們天賦減少但是他們的進攻變得更加多樣而且更難去預判。
[ – ] Celticsscarecrowbar 682 指標 16 小時前
I think the Warriors are coasting, but the Cavs seem angry and bored. I trust Kerr to whip them into shape when it matters. I have zero faith in Lue.
勇士是在劃水啦,但是騎士看起來又憤怒又煩惱。我相信科爾在重要關頭肯定會鞭策他的球員們,但是泰倫 - 盧的話,我已經對他毫無信心瞭。
[ – ] [ CLE ] Kevin LoveSartuk 224 指標 15 小時前
This is pretty fair. Additionally, our defensive issues last year never fixed themselves in the playoffs, even when soooo many Cavs fans kept repeating "We'll amp it up when it matters, don't worry". The offense did ramp up, but that defense stayed atrocious.
騎士球迷:樓上說的還挺客觀的。而且去年展現出來的防守問題在季後賽裡一直都沒能解決,甚至當時一大堆騎士球迷在那邊反復麻痹自己:" 沒事的,重要關頭的時候我們的防守質量就會上來的 "。進攻質量確實是提高瞭,但是防守質量還是爛得毫無人性。
But we don't have Kyrie anymore, and that will hurt the offense. IT coming back will help that, but who knows how healthy he'll be and how easily he'll mix into the fold. I can imagine a lot of scenarios where, when healthy, we can be a good bit better than we were last season...but I can see just as many ( probably more likely ) scenarios where we're not as good...especially with how we've played so far. It's disheartening, for sure.
而且今年我們失去瞭歐文,肯定會傷到我們的進攻質量。雖然小托馬斯回來的時候會有改善的,但是天知道他會恢復到什麼健康程度,同時輕松融入球隊呢?我曾經幻想過很多次,當我們健康的時候,我們會比去年強一點點,但是我現在隻能看到許多次(而且可能接下來會有更多次)情況是我們並沒有那麼強,尤其是賽季進行到現在我們打得有多爛。太令人心碎瞭。
[ – ] BullsIndigoMoss 56 指標 14 小時前
This was my concern as well when watching the Cavs. Their defense is still just as bad as it has always been. Consistency game to game seems to be a lot more important for defense compared to offense. Watching the Cavs just give up easy layup after easy layup this season is not very encouraging.
I have no doubt that the Cavs will finish in the upper-half of the teams in the East, based purely on the strength of the East, but I don't see how they are going to compete against anyone in the Finals if they don't figure it out before the playoffs start.
公牛球迷:我看騎士的球也會有這種擔憂。他們的防守就像以往一樣那麼爛。一場一場比賽下來防守穩定性其實比進攻穩定性更加重要。這賽季看著騎士輕易放棄防守讓對方上一個又一個空籃挺讓人失落的。
單純基於東部的競爭強度來說,我對於騎士最終會排在東部上層梯隊表示毫無懷疑,但是如果他們在季後賽開打前不能解決問題,那我看不出來他們到時候到底如何去跟總決賽的對手競爭。
[ – ] SupersonicsSportslegend 166 指標 16 小時前
It's been a weird season so far and I wonder if the early start has something to do it. Teams have played 6-7 regular season games already and the season usually starts now. The 2 finals teams have even less time to re-energize themselves for the season.
這賽季目前為止是挺詭異的,我懷疑是不是因為賽季提前開始的原因。以往賽季都是這個時候才剛開始打,而如今這些球隊就已經打瞭 6-7 場,去年的兩支總決賽球隊甚至削減瞭更多的時間去為新賽季調整恢復。
[ – ] Trail BlazersAvatarArwen 82 指標 14 小時前
Honestly... That's not a half bad point at all. I really hadn't considered it. That's quite a bit of rest they are missing out on.
說實話,你這觀點還真他娘的挑不出來啥錯。我咋從來沒想過呢,騎勇喪失的休息時間可還真不少。
[ – ] [ GSW ] Stephen CurrySmoking_Hot_BBQ 100 指標 16 小時前
Warriors adopted the lecoasting strat this year.
勇士球迷:勇士這賽季學會瞭 " 勒劃水 " 的戰略。
[ – ] HarveySwinestein 1529 指標 16 小時前
They just don't care about the regular season anymore because they know they can turn it up when they need to and get to the finals. This is from experience. It's a waste of time and energy to focus on the regular season, risking injuries and chasing meaningless records when all that matters to champs is another banner.
Make no mistake, it's Dubs v.s. Cavs again this season baring any injuries.
騎士和勇士隻是不再在乎常規賽瞭,因為他們知道當他們需要進軍總決賽的時候他們會好好打的,這是累積下來的經驗。把註意力放在常規賽季簡直就是浪費時間和精力,冒著受傷的風險去追逐那些毫無意義的紀錄跟奪取總冠軍旗幟來比簡直不值一提。
我敢拍著胸脯保證,拋去傷病的話,今年總決賽還會是勇士對騎士。
[ – ] Charlotte HornetsrogerStrider 227 指標 15 小時前
Whole off-season ppl said regular season would be boring cos we knew who'd be in the finals. It turns out Cavs and GSW feel the same way.
整個休賽期人們都在說常規賽季會很無聊因為我們都知道哪兩支球隊會相遇在總決賽啦,誰知道實際上騎士和勇士也感同身受。txtx
[ – ] Heat BandwagonMiaCannons 160 指標 15 小時前
Tin foil hat
The NBA sent a letter to the Cavs and Warriors to turn down their level of play in order to build suspense throughout the regular season and playoffs.
準備好被洗腦吧,凡人們:
NBA 給騎士和勇士寫瞭一封信告訴他們別打得那麼認真,這樣就會給常規賽和季後賽營造大大的懸念。
[ – ] Cavalierslegodmanjames 92 指標 15 小時前
Im not a conspiracy theorist but this is sports entertainment. There is some shit behind the scenes
我並不是一個陰謀論者但是 NBA 的確屬於體育娛樂的商業聯盟,這背後肯定有些不為人知的秘密。
[ – ] Gentlescholar_AMA 100 指標 10 小時前
"Im not a conspiracy theorist but I have a theory about this conspiracy"
我來轉述樓上的話:" 我並不是一個陰謀論者但是我有一個陰謀論。"
[ – ] tabberdehut 522 指標 16 小時前
They may not care and they may make the finals, but they're also disappointed in the way they're playing. You only need to watch the end of their last 2 games to know that, slumping off court like they found out their dog died, and before the buzzer.
There's chill mode, and then there's lying in bed all day getting leg cramps mode. They're closer to doing the latter right now.
得瞭吧,騎士和勇士可能並不在乎常規賽,他們也有可能打到總決賽,但是他們對他們現在的表現還是感到十分失望的。你隻要看過去兩場比賽的末尾和終場哨響你就知道啦:垂頭喪氣地走出球場,就好像他們發現他們傢裡的狗掛瞭一樣。
有一種模式叫 " 穩住,我們能贏 ",但也有一種模式叫 " 攤死在床上擼到腿抽筋 "。他們現在可能更接近第二種模式。
[ – ] Cavalierslegodmanjames 361 指標 15 小時前
I think a comparison would be like you being sad you failed your midterm because you didnt study for it. You sit through the class upset but the second you leave you go back to partying and drinking...were you really committed to doing well if thats your response?
另一種比較方式我覺得是就好像你因為沒有好好學習然後你期中考掛科瞭,接下來整節課都悶悶不樂,但是下一秒下課瞭,你就馬上去開趴暢飲。捫心自問下請問你真的全身心投入付出去好好做瞭嗎?
[ – ] NBATheKingOfBass 322 指標 15 小時前
Fuck, I really need to get my shit together and stop failing class.
我去,現在起我一定好好讀書,永不掛科!
[ – ] [ CLE ] Daniel Gibsonpoopdog1000 158 指標 16 小時前 *
i think the cavs' problem entirely stems from lebron being pretty disinterested. it's such a top-down team where everything stems from lebron, both in playmaking and work ethic, so if lebron isn't leading by example then things will be pretty ugly. that said, i can't blame him, because he's 32 and has been to 7 straight finals- why would regular season games in october matter to him? we do a lot of hand-wringing and it's frustrating watching the cavaliers play really bad basketball simply because they don't care ( which is a disservice to the fans, particularly those who pay to go to games ) , but at the end of the day lebron will still be lebron and the cavaliers will still probably walk to the finals
騎士的問題完完全全來源於詹姆斯現在過於不屑的態度。這支球隊從頭到尾所有事情都是在圍繞詹姆斯,無論是組織進攻還是工作態度,所以說如果詹姆斯不做榜樣的話,情況會變得很醜陋。話雖如此,但是我不能責怪他,畢竟他也是 32 歲的老漢,同時還連續打進 7 次總決賽。所以說為什麼他會覺得十月份的常規賽對他來說重要呢?我們球迷對此束手無策,然後一邊流著淚一邊看著騎士打得跟翔一樣,僅僅因為騎士球員毫不在乎啊(對球迷來說挺傷人的,尤其是那些花瞭錢去現在看球的球迷),但是別擔心,你勒大爺還會是你勒大爺,最終騎士可能還是會輕松打入總決賽。
[ – ] j4k3b 58 指標 14 小時前
All you have to do is pull up a box score and you will see no one is doing a fucking thing besides Lebron. But some how its his fault they are losing?
其實你隻需要拿出數據統計你就會看到除瞭詹姆斯,其他人 tm 的什麼也不做,但樓上你卻說他們輸球都是因為詹姆斯?
[ – ] LakersDarkSoulsDarius 139 指標 14 小時前
Maybe stop looking at a boxscore and try watching a game where you can see lebron not give a shit on defense and contributes heavily to one of the worst defenses in the league.
He could also do less offensively in a real system.
也許是時候去看比賽而不看數據統計,然後你就會發現詹姆斯才不會去防守呢,同時還為騎士隊在聯盟裡數一數二差的防守做出瞭巨大的貢獻。
假設騎士有著一套真實的體系的話,詹姆斯可能就不需要承擔進攻端那麼重的任務瞭。
[ – ] Warriorsuntouchable765 259 指標 16 小時前
I feel like the Cavs have a more serious problem.
勇士球迷:我感覺騎士的問題比我勇的要嚴重得多。
[ – ] IT-3 111 指標 16 小時前
How so? Cavs have 5 new players in the rotation with multiple games missed by Rose, Wade, and IT. Warriors have the same exact core and were supposed to be stronger than last year, yet have struggled in every game.
你怎麼想的?騎士增加瞭 5 名新的輪換球員,而且羅斯、韋德、IT 都缺陣瞭好多場,反而勇士隊有著跟去年一樣的核心陣容,按理說應該比去年更強,但是他們現在每場都打得很掙紮。
[ – ] yeetingyute 284 指標 16 小時前
Bruh. The Cavs are playing with no passion, no ball movement, no energy, and no communication. The Warriors still look the same, I'm not worried about them at all.
The Cavs look like they lost their interest in basketball all together.
兄弟,騎士打得毫無熱情,毫無球轉換,毫無能量,毫無交流,而勇士看起來跟去年一樣,我一點兒也不擔心他們。
騎士球員看起來就好像他們一起失去瞭對籃球的熱情一樣。
[ – ] nancyd180 75 指標 16 小時前
Yeah the cavs and the warriors don ’ t have the same issues. If the warriors don ’ t turn the bell over they win that game.
沒錯,騎士和勇士沒有同樣的問題。如果勇士能不失誤的話,他們就能贏球。
[ – ] KingsSptsjunkie 49 指標 15 小時前
I mean, I think they will both be fine.
But the Warriors have had their full roster and are 28th in defensive rating and 1st in offensive rating. Their D has been terrible.
Cavs are actually 27th in D rating, but only 16th in O rating.
The real problem for both teams is a complete lack of defense.
他們都會回歸正軌的。
但是勇士目前全員健康,卻有著聯盟排名第 28 的防守效率和聯盟第 1 的進攻效率,他們的防守從賽季開始到現在爛透瞭。
騎士呢作為難兄難弟實際上有著排名第 27 的防守效率,但是進攻效率隻排第 16。
兩支球隊真正的問題就是完全缺少防守。
